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    Ribera
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        I’m creatin’ a portrait of my father, and the lights luscious warm tones
        really sing. I’m, of course, attemptin’ hit ‘em (or as close as I can come
        with mere paint).
        My palette includes cadmium yellow light and deep, with a handful of the
        standard earths; yet it appears no matter how much I work that flesh it
        comes out muddy (or muddier’ ’n nature. . .).
        I’ve tried a lil’ glazin’ here ’n’ there too; in vain, though.
        So my query Re: a color I’ve not used in a great while: Indian yellow: in
        fact, a transparent tone. Now, as stated, I’ve not even tried that in a great
        while (never mind ownin’ it), so those out there might be aware, might
        that hue provide that indescribable yellow glow I seek?!
        And if Indian yellow won’t cut that mustard, any other yellows might?
        I figure if I can’t come to a woikin’ conclusion on my own, perhaps a web-
        forum like this’s might work.
        r

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        RomanB
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            What do you mean by muddy? Could you elaborate?

            #823943
            AnnieA
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                Indian Yellow was reportedly once made from the urine of cows in India who had been fed only on mango leaves. Whether or not that was true or mythical, today, Indian Yellow is made from a number of different pigments – it differs per the manufacturer – so it’s impossible to make blanket statements about Indian Yellow.

                That said, and with the caveat that I haven’t tried many others, l’ve fallen in love with the Cobra WMO version of Indian Yellow, which is PY110. It’s semi-transparent, and can impart a lovely warm glow – the kind of thing it sounds like you’re looking for. But I use it primarily in skies and there are other Indian Yellows that I haven’t tried. Maybe there’s a better one for your needs and perhaps others will weigh in.

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                #823944
                Pinguino
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                    Rather than calling it by product name (which may be quite fanciful), what is the pigment? I have Rembrandt’s “Stil de Grain” which is pigment PY110, and may be called “Indian Yellow” by another manufacturer.

                    My PY110 is quite transparent, and produces a beautiful warm glow when applied as a thin glaze, like late afternoon sunlight. Of course, it can be mixed with others colors and painted directly, but it seems to me that it might be too chromatic for skin tone mixtures, unless you make a lot of effort to get the mixture right.

                    #823946
                    Ted B.
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                        The original Zorn palette for flesh was translucent colors; yellow ochre, ivory black, flake white …tinted with opaque vermilion. Perhaps the opaque Cadmium yellows and titanium white are overpowering your paint blend? Indian yellow or yellow ochre and some zinc white with a touch of red?

                        A classic is phthalo yellow-green with genuine alizarin crimson (fugitive pr83). Perversely, use permanent alizarin crimson (pv19 q-violet) and you can get a Delft Blue instead of flesh-color!

                        …Considering that an oil painting can be 1/3rd to one-half white paint, the impact of shifting from translucent Flake Lead White to opaque Titanium White on traditional techiques is hugely underappreciated. It’s not just the shift in temperature.

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