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    kmn2019
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        Thanks everybody.

        Ik345 – I’ve been wanting to try Lukas products, especially if they work with artisan products – Although I no longer paint alla prima I am interested in seeing how they perform.

        Hey Steve – I own the artisan medium but wouldn’t its oil content, while helping the adherence of the pigment, prove difficult to build layers on given the amount needed to make a thin enough wash?

        #844603
        marioz
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            You may want to have a look at this video, which explains how to properly use Talens Cobra (WMO):

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMz5vuG0FhI

            for painting “like a watercolor”, they suggest a mixture of 20% oil + 80% water (see around minute 11:00).

            #844596
            Raffless
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                You may want to have a look at this video, which explains how to properly use Talens Cobra (WMO):

                [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMz5vuG0FhI[/URL]

                for painting “like a watercolor”, they suggest a mixture of 20% oil + 80% water (see around minute 11:00).

                17 minutes. Thats worse that Bob Ross with his ‘beating the devil’… Imagine how much he is breathing in 😫

                #844604
                marioz
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                    17 minutes. Thats worse that Bob Ross with his ‘beating the devil’… Imagine how much he is breathing in 😫

                    Maybe I should mention that the video is the seventh in a series of 8 videos, and that they just cover the technical aspects of WMO which differ from “normal” oils.
                    That’s not “Become a master in 17 minutes”… :)

                    #844610
                    kmn2019
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                        You may want to have a look at this video, which explains how to properly use Talens Cobra (WMO):

                        [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMz5vuG0FhI[/URL]

                        for painting “like a watercolor”, they suggest a mixture of 20% oil + 80% water (see around minute 11:00).

                        That video is great. Very clear explanation. Thank you very much.

                        While it occurred to me that I could potentially add oil or medium to a very thin wash, I worried that doing this on my first layer would make it difficult to build up the paint fat over lean for three or four layers.

                        I wasn’t connecting the fact that because it is so thin, I am more so binding a lean layer rather than creating a fat one. (While I understand adding oil does indeed create fatter paint, this particular mixture would still be relatively lean considering the ratio of solvent to oil) – Anyone feel free to correct me on this if I’m wrong!

                        But it seems as though I could follow this procedure and get the exposed underpainting/ unfinished effect I am after:

                        Primed Canvas
                        Layer 1: Underpainting thinned to a wash like consistency with 80% water/ thinner + 20% medium
                        Layer 2: Paint straight from the tube
                        Layer 3: Paint + oil
                        Layer 4: Paint + More oil

                        I’ve been experimenting all weekend I’m anxious to get this painting on canvas :lol:

                        #844605
                        marioz
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                            I’m glad that you enjoyed the video.

                            The procedure you described is very appealing to me. I’m mostly a “water media” guy, but I also like some unique characterists of oil, so I usually start a painting with acrylics and finish with oils. But WMO seem an interesting alternative.
                            And yes, it’s normal to leave some parts of the first layer uncovered, that’s part of the fun :)

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                            Raffless
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                                Maybe I should mention that the video is the seventh in a series of 8 videos, and that they just cover the technical aspects of WMO which differ from “normal” oils.
                                That’s not “Become a master in 17 minutes”… :)

                                I meant look at the video at the 17 minute mark! :)

                                #844592
                                wal_t
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                                    I meant look at the video at the 17 minute mark! :)

                                    Just make sure there are no children behind the easel or people you like when you deploy that varnishing “technique” :evil:

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