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January 18, 2010 at 3:33 pm #988353
Hi all,
Just wondering what brand of white pencils you all find best if you work on toned/coloured paper? I’m thinking especially of white fur, but would apply to anything. I have Prisma white & Coloursoft and find the white Coloursoft much stronger. although I have to go pretty hard on it. I have tried Derwent Drawing white as I heard this was good, but I didnt find it that great personally. Apparently Stabilo white pencil is supposed to be great for drawing whiskers on – has anyone used this brand?
Also when using the lighter coloured paper like pale blue/beige/pink do you find it hard to get white to stand out? Is the brand of paper relevant to making whites/lights stand out?
Feedback people, please:cat:
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January 18, 2010 at 3:55 pm #1131181The strongest white is probably the Derwent Drawing Chinese White; but since I can only get those in sets and thus can’t afford to peruse a single colour so much, I usually use the Coloursoft too. I also find it a little easier to use than the Drawing. You said you don’t like the Drawing white much, and I don’t know the Stabilo white, so I’m afraid Coloursoft would be my best guess.
You might want to try a white pastel or pastel pencil, maybe even some white paint if you don’t mind mixed media.
January 18, 2010 at 3:56 pm #1131176I think it’s personal pref, but I like the prisma white.
Robin
January 18, 2010 at 4:05 pm #1131183Hi Lexy ..
If I want to achieve a clear, stark white .. my personal preference is to use Acrylic inks .. which can be over-worked with CP ..
Or, if in the case of “whiskers”, fine details on plumage etc .. you might want to consider this .. http://www.artsupplies.co.uk/item-pentel-hybrid-gel-grip-pen-white.htm
I bought three & have found them very useful .. I’m sure they’ll be available wherever you live ..
As Lyta says, mixed media precludes entry to pure CP competitions .. but as that’s not something I intend doing, I don’t need to worry about it ..
Bye for now,
Kev ..
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January 18, 2010 at 4:45 pm #1131179To me Cran D’ache Pablo and Coloursoft dont work well i think.
January 19, 2010 at 6:29 am #1131185Thanks Kev B for the link, I’m definitely going to try this pen for whiskers, I keep drawing animals with no whiskers, as I leave them till the end and the white wax pencils tend to smear over the other colours by then, so this may be a solution:D
"We are all of us in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars....." Oscar Wilde
January 19, 2010 at 6:39 am #1131184Hi Lexy ..
You’re more than welcome ..
I’m sure these Pentel Gel pens will be available in Ireland ..
If not, then I do know that Ken Bromley ship internationally .. they’re a small, family-run business .. whose premises I’ve visited personally & whom I have no hesitation in recommending ..
Best of luck ..
Kev ..
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January 19, 2010 at 7:07 am #1131182One specifical whisker trick is to indent the lines for the whiskers first, then add all the other colours and lastly fill in the indented lines with white; obviously that still requires planning the position of the whiskers, but at least it makes saving the whites easier and keeps a piece strictly cp in case that’s required.
January 19, 2010 at 7:46 am #1131178For tips on whiskers, there’s this thread in the library: Animal Whiskers?
As far as which white is best, that really is a matter of personal preference.
If you’re wanting smooshy/soft/good for blending/burnishing, I think the Prisma white, Derwent Coloursoft White, & Caran D’ache Luminence white are all fairly interchangeable.
Also when using the lighter coloured paper like pale blue/beige/pink do you find it hard to get white to stand out? Is the brand of paper relevant to making whites/lights stand out?
In general, the trick to making your whites stand out is making sure your *darks* are dark enough to give good contrast. It’s a question of *values*, not how thick of a layer of white you’re laying down.
But keep in mind that when working on a lightly toned paper, like the ones you mentioned, it’s probably still a good idea to “reserve” your white areas, just like you would on white paper. And then get your darker stuff in. The mid-tones usually sort themselves out fairly well if you can get the extremes established early on.
Hope that makes sense!
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Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.[/left]January 19, 2010 at 7:57 am #1131180I have only used the Derwent and Prisma white so far and like the Derwent so much better. I find the Prisma much more waxy.Great tips on whiskers!! Sometimes mine come out too thick like spikes:rolleyes: Thanks Rosemary:wave:
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"keep your own time tickin"January 20, 2010 at 10:43 am #1131177Derwents Chinese white gets my vote, lays down the best layer of color next to Neo ll which is my all time favorite but is hard to do fine lines with.
Rosa
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