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    artdragon86
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        Over in the Palette Addicts thread, I mentioned that I wanted to get a few half pans from a different brand to go in my Cotman Sketchers Pocket Box. Ingegerd pointed out that not all half pans would fit; eg. the Schmincke half pans would just get stuck. This made me wonder if anyone has ever bought pans or half pans for a particular box only to find that they didn’t fit, since there seem to be slight variations between the manufacturers.

        I thought I’d start a thread where we can hopefully compile a list of dimensions for the different pans and half pans, so people can make sure that the pans they want will fit the box they are buying them for. Measurements will be provided for the top of the pan, the bottom of the pan and the height of the pan (height will refer to the plastic pan itself only, not any part of the actual paint cake that protrudes over the top). I’ll start with mine:

        Lukas 1862 half pan
        Top: 19mm X 16.5mm
        Bottom: 17.5mm X 15mm
        Height: 9mm

        Schmincke Horadam Aquarelle half pan
        Top: 19mm X 16mm
        Bottom: 19mm X 16mm
        Height: 8mm

        Sennelier Aquarelle half pan
        Top: 19mm X 16mm
        Bottom: 18mm X 15mm
        Height: 9.5mm

        Winsor and Newton Artists half pan
        Top: 19mm X 15mm
        Bottom: 17mm X 14mm
        Height: 8mm

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        A useful list Rebecca.

        Doug


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        #1175282
        GeorgieB
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            I know that the half-pans from Daniel Smith are also too large for the Cottman pocket sketcher kit, but right now I don’t have any way to accurately measure them.

            Perhaps someone with the DS pans can?

            Also, it would be helpful if the Cottman pans could be measured.

            GeorgieB
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            #1175273
            artdragon86
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                Also, it would be helpful if the Cottman pans could be measured.

                The Cotman half pans (at least the ones I have) are the same dimensions as the WN Artist half pans.

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                #1175267
                Tred
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                    The evolution of this thread should now look at empty pans and half pans from different retailers,
                    Cheers
                    Tred

                    "When I see a jumble; I paint just that" - John Yardley

                    #1175283
                    GeorgieB
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                        The Cotman half pans (at least the ones I have) are the same dimensions as the WN Artist half pans.

                        Okay, that stands to reason.

                        GeorgieB
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                        #1175265
                        WthrLady
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                            daniel smith’s half pans are flaired at the top
                            I called yesterday to get their measurements to replace my schmincke pans (they won’t work).

                            They are VERY willing to give the measurements, just make sure to ask for them in Metric. “Just over 5/8 inch x just over 1/2 inch” doesn’t cut it! LOL.

                            I’m just going to order schmincke blanks.

                            #1175280
                            Rocket Jones
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                                I have the Kremer half and full pans at home. I’ll measure them this evening and post the dimensions.

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                                #1175276
                                earthnut
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                                    Daniel Smith half pans
                                    Top: 19 mm x 16.5 mm
                                    Bottom: 18 mm x 15 mm
                                    Height: 9.5 mm

                                    I bought these and I have the Cotman pocket sketcher kit. They’re slightly too big, but they will go in the little holes and if you add a little tacky stuff to the bottom of the pan, they’ll stay in. :)

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                                    #1175281
                                    Rocket Jones
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                                        Ok, the Kremer pans. I bought a bunch of these empty when I ordered their travel boxes, so I don’t have any other to compare against. These measurements are very slightly rounded because I measured in inches and converted to metric.

                                        Kremer half pans
                                        Top: 19 mm x 17.75 mm
                                        Bottom: 18.25 mm x 15 mm
                                        Height: 9.5 mm

                                        Kremer full pans
                                        Top: 19 mm x 30.25 mm
                                        Bottom: 18.25 mm x 29.25 mm
                                        Height: 9.5 mm

                                        The tops are slightly larger than the bottoms.

                                        "We are all a little weird and life's a little weird, and when we find someone who's weirdness is compatible with ours,
                                        we join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it Love." -- Dr. Seuss

                                        #1175274
                                        artdragon86
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                                            The evolution of this thread should now look at empty pans and half pans from different retailers,
                                            Cheers
                                            Tred

                                            These are the measurements from an empty half pan I got from ArtMaterials[/URL] in Australia. I don’t know what ‘brand’ they are.
                                            Top: 19.5mm X 16.5mm
                                            Bottom: 17.5mm X 15mm
                                            Height: 9.5mm

                                            Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard. Be evil.
                                            Rebecca ~ http://artdragon86.wordpress.com/

                                            #1175284
                                            GeorgieB
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                                                Daniel Smith half pans
                                                Top: 19 mm x 16.5 mm
                                                Bottom: 18 mm x 15 mm
                                                Height: 9.5 mm

                                                I bought these and I have the Cotman pocket sketcher kit. They’re slightly too big, but they will go in the little holes and if you add a little tacky stuff to the bottom of the pan, they’ll stay in. :)

                                                Good to know. My wife and I attended a three day pocket sketching class and use the Cotman sketcher kit (14 half-pans). I would like to replace the Cotman pigments as they run out with DS. Maybe hot glue?

                                                GeorgieB
                                                Membership Chair, SonoranPleinAirPainters.com
                                                Crits and Comments always welcome

                                                #1175259
                                                ingegerd
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                                                    Schmincke Horadam Aquarelle whole pans.

                                                    Top: 19mmX30mm
                                                    Bottom: 19mmX30mm
                                                    Height: 9mm

                                                    White Nights whole pans.

                                                    Top: 18mmX28mm
                                                    Bottom: 17mmX27mm
                                                    Height: 11mm

                                                    #1175257
                                                    Studio-1-F
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                                                        Thanks, everyone, for taking to time to provide us with all these dimensions! :heart: :heart: :heart:

                                                        I use magnets to hold pans in my sketch boxes, so the width and length aren’t critical anymore. But the height is! What with the added magnet stuck to the bottom of the pan, it’s important to know if the box will snap closed. So for those heights <---- Thank you, one and all! Jan

                                                        #1175268
                                                        MarekB
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                                                            For those who may consider using (upside-down) LEGO bricks as paint pans: standard size of a “full-pan” brick is:

                                                            TOP: 15.8 x 31.8 mm
                                                            BOTTOM: same
                                                            HEIGHT: 9.6mm when joined with another lego piece, otherwise 11.4 mm total height

                                                            :)

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