Watercolor tubes vs. pans?

[Briar Rose]

When I am working with watercolor, I use both tubes, and pans and watercolor pencils, and Derwent
s graphitint pencils for color wash, at the same time.

There is a slightly different color (that I see) in different companies.

I paint old barns with watercolor, and I love using the same dried paint from the day before, or days before so I get the same color.

Just try it, and see what you like.

I am sorry you don’t have the availability for supplies in your country.

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[Horsa]

I constantly re-wet and use old paint in my palette. Some paints seem to re-wet easier than others. I get lumps, grains, and stuborn pans occasionally.

I will occasionally wash off a palette completely. Usually when it has more “palette grey” than proper pigment. A wet paper towel will clean smaller mixing areas and paint wells.

I prefer fresh from the tube, but paint is expensive enough that I am not going to throw it away. I wonder how acrylic artists cope with this?

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[HarvestMoon]

I wonder how acrylic artists cope with this?

Acrylic is much cheaper than watercolor…and once it dries, you can peel it off and use it in collages and such! It can be cut into shapes, etc. They make acrylic palettes that are covered, that keep the paint fresher longer, but it all still does harden eventually.

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[Flopka]

Yes, as an acrylic artist who is trying a little watercolor, I have to keep telling myself that I don’t HAVE to wash out the palette when I’m done…

Thanks for the tips on how to deal with pans when you don’t have a holder for them.

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[countdown]

I use tube paint in “half pans”. The original idea was from this website with the Altoids tin. I used legos for my pans, can make half or whole sized pans. I Glued a flat piece in the box and and pop out pans when I want to change colors. I recently switched to M Graham paints and I am loving them!

The pan set I have I found to chalky for my taste. Well it is about 20 years old, might make a difference.

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[DebSpinks]

Legos!!! What a wonderful idea. I have two Altoid tins and a bin of Legos I keep for my grandson’s visits. I’m sure he won’t mind if I borrow a few. I’m gonna try this!

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[karenlee]

Countdown–what a splendid idea! Thank you! I can make myself an Altoid/ Lego paintbox! Super!!!!

[Catwoman2]

LEGOs! That is absolutely BRILLIANT!!!

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LEGOs! That is absolutely BRILLIANT!!!

Susan

Fantastic idea!

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[McKeeJane]

That IS an amazing idea! Finally, something to do with Jimmy’s precious LEGOs that we have to keep around! He’s pretty stingy about them – but I think he might just find this idea innovative enough to get him to let me have some!

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[HarvestMoon]

OK- RUNNING out to buy Altoids AND Legos!!!

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[D’Lady]

Wow. I thought I was clever when I came up with the idea of using the caps from 2-litre bottles a few years ago. Legos should work like a real charm. :thumbsup:

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[mobius49]

I use tubes AND pans, in the home studio and plein aire. mist the pans and they are good to go, mist the tube paint squeezed into the palette….good to go !
I have palettes that have set for several months….mist em and paint….
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[Renee Marks Watercolor]

I disagree with the popular information that (Tube paint isn’t formulated to dry/wet/dry/wet like pan paints are.)
I have done extensive research and know this is true in the case of Winder & Newton and maybe a few other brands. I know this was true for most brands several (MANY) years ago.
I also know that this is not the case with Schmincke or Holbein. Both have always been the exact same formula and milling technique in their tubes as in their pan paints. Schmincke especially speak freely about this information and use it in their product information.
Since then two more brands were blended to be used wet or dry because they don’t make pan paints. M Graham and Daniel Smith. Daniel Smith even sell specialized empty pans and empty pan sets so you can make your own.
I know this is an old subject but I could not help responding.:cat:Plus, I’m thrilled to learn about using Legos and Altoid containers.:thumbsup:

This is a new one for me: “Dried pan paints are meant to be reconstituted with water; liquid tube paints are a different formulation and are [I]not[/I] meant to be reconstituted after they dry.” Judy Treman, [U][B]Building Brilliant Watercolors[/B][/U]. Treman says once tube colors have dried on the palette, the dried paint should be discarded.
I have been using dried tube colors from my palette for many years; I felt it was wasteful to throw paint out just because it had dried. I think this practice is pretty widespread. The question is, am I cheating myself out of brilliant color by doing it? I really do like pan colors (I have a great Talens Rembrandt set), but [U]individual pan colors [/U]are not sold in any art supply stores where I live, so I can’t get replacement pans. The high end local store I called said pan colors are much more popular in Europe.
What’s the deal? Are European painters using pan colors? Are they really better–more brilliant than dried tube colors? I would like to hear from anyone– have you compared the two?

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[artdragon86]

I disagree with the popular information that [I](Tube paint isn’t formulated to dry/wet/dry/wet like pan paints are.)[/I]
I have done extensive research and know this is true in the case of Winder & Newton

hmm As someone fairly new to watercolour, I had assumed that all tubes would more or less behave the same as pan paints if left to dry. I just ordered some half pans as I was planning to make a small portable watercolour kit in a tobacco tin with my Winsor and Newton tube paint. Is dried tube W&N pretty much unusable, or is it just a few colours that might be a bit hard to get started? I was mainly planning on just using it for sketching and bumming around, especially when I’m on a break at uni or visiting my nan or whatever; if I was doing a proper painting I’d just use fresh paint from the tubes at home. I want a portable pan set (I have the Sakura Koi 24 colour one but they’re only student grade, though they are lovely) and I have been eyeing off the Lukas 1892 48 colour half pan set, but since it isn’t exactly cheap, I was hoping dried W&N would suffice.

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