W&N oils – best colour for rich strawberries

[Sarah Edgecumbe]

Hi all.

I have a question for those that paint with W&N paints.

I am painting some strawberries. I want them to be an extremely bright tasty red. I intend to use some glazes as well to bring this out, however i need a red that is extremely bright at some point.

Think…

I have W&N Cadmium Scarlet and Alzarin Crimson They just dont quite seem to be bright enough…?? one is too orange the other too pink.

I was going to order one of the other cadmium reds (Dark or medium) or the W&N Bright red.

anyone have any recommendations?? I would prefer W&N brand or comparable cost. Not more expensive than them. I’m still only new to thins.

Many thanks.

Sarah

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[Anonymous]

sarah i think bright red and permanent rose should get what you want. Bright red is a pyrole, brighter and makes cleaner mixes than cadmiums. It is also not as opaque as cadmium which is what you want for glazing.

[Sarah Edgecumbe]

Thanks for the suggestion. It looks brighter in the colour chart. It is also cheaper which is nice.

Tha ks

Sarah

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[Anonymous]

yes i like it better than any cad because it makes brighter cleaner mixes, non toxic, is series 1, and you can get three tubes of it for the price of one cad red tube!

[Anonymous]

sarah, are you using the screen as your reference? it occured to me that you could be experiencing “painting from a computer monitor shock”. What happens is you look at a reference on a monitor and your painting never ever looks like you can get comparable chroma and brightness. That is because you can’t, monitors are brightly backlit and paint is not. I like to print out a reference because of this.

[!becca]

Sid, that is an interesting point…I like printed refs too…but recently have been using my monitor. And, in my dvd of Schmid he recommends that you use a monitor over printed ref material because the color is truer.

And, by the way Sarah, that is a beauty of a berry…I see Rembrandt Perm Red and Aliz Crimson…maybe Quin Red instead of Aliz…would need to mix a little…

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[Sarah Edgecumbe]

Nods, I do use images from the computer. However i have real strawberries this time. So I’m trying to get the colour from them. Very hard because they are sooooooo yummy….. I keep eating my props! Last time with the grapes… i ate them before i got to paint the grapes. Back i went to the fruit shop.

the shop people sure think i am a fussy eater… looking at the grape bunch to examine the size and colours *grin*

On the canvas the strawberries certainly look the wrong colour. They are too orange and nothing like the strawberry colour.

but yes if i do use anything from the computer… I print out reference pics as well. Just have to keep in mind that the computer is different and paint what you think should be there. I find it works ok.

thanks for the idea!!

Sarah

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[!becca]

Sarah, that is amazing, because I was thinking as I was writing earlier that real strawberries would be the ideal for you.:lol:

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[Sarah Edgecumbe]

lol… it all started when i squeezed the strawberry ( NO puns meant. I wanted to see the colour of the juice… and maybe match to paint… very embarrassing…) Then i just HAD to eat them.

I think the problem is that the cad scarlet and crimzon just are not cutting it.

will order the bright red. No doubt it will be a good addition to the pot. Shame i have to do an order from dickblick. Now i HAVE to order some more paints to justify the postage.

so…
getting some play colours.
*grin*

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[Anonymous]

lol, yes the real thing is the best, i am going to pick a sh-load of them this week or so, here:
http://strawberryfarm.com/

[!becca]

a year or two ago I painted some chocolate dipped strawberries….yum…that painting went quickly so I could get to the berries…
If you are ordering ..try the Rembrandt Perm Red too…it isn’t expensive…

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[!becca]

lol, yes the real thing is the best, i am going to pick a sh-load of them this week or so, here:
[url]http://strawberryfarm.com/[/url]

Yum, Sid, are you going to send out samples of your preserves?;)

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[Sarah Edgecumbe]

yummmm

sounds good

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[DaisyChart]

I took this photograph of 7 different Winsor Newton reds this morning for you. Of course, there is no way for me to know if the colors will display correctly on your monitor – there is no replacement for a real paint color chart! However, I hope it helps, especially in illustrating the tinting strengths and hue shifts. The white used to make the tints is titanium.

I’m posting it twice, the second time without the labels, because there is a lot of useful visual information in the two tint swatches.

[llawrence]

I have W&N Cadmium Scarlet and Alzarin Crimson They just dont quite seem to be bright enough…?? one is too orange the other too pink.

Sarah, the idea is to glaze one over the other to get your bright red. This technique has been in use for ages, and it’s very effective.

Model the forms with your warm opaque red (the cad red), so that you have a form that looks orange. Use cad red light for this if you’ve got it, go ahead and make it nice and orange. Make the lights a bit lighter than they will end up (but not the darks!), and steer them slightly yellow, so they don’t get pink. Then, when all is done, several glazes of your transparent cool red (your alizarin) over the red-orange form.

This one, an unfinished oil painting for an illustration, was done by glazing rose dore over red lead, but it’s the same idea. The lights are slightly darker than the strawberry’s – but not by much!

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