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  • #1018379
    Dale_M
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        Other sources for fans/blowers/vent hoods…

        http://www.mcmaster.com/
        http://www.grainger.com/

        Dale

        Who will teach the young?
        Only the old that have survived!
        And only if the young will listen.

        #1018405
        Schooner Girl
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            [i]Originally posted by Dale_M [/i]
            [B]Other sources for fans/blowers/vent hoods…

            [url]http://www.mcmaster.com/[/url]
            [url]http://www.grainger.com/[/url]

            Dale [/B]

            How about this one:

            http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/produ ctdetail.jsp?xi=xi&ItemId=1611744319&cc item=

            Fan in window, work bench in front of
            window?

            Opinions please.

            Thanks.

            Gisele

            [FONT=Arial]Gisele

            #1018406
            Schooner Girl
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                [i]Originally posted by Schooner Girl [/i]
                [B]

                How about this one:

                [url]http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/produ[/url] ctdetail.jsp?xi=xi&ItemId=1611744319&cc item=

                Fan in window, work bench in front of
                window?

                Opinions please.

                Thanks.

                Gisele [/B]

                Sorry! here it is:

                window fan

                [FONT=Arial]Gisele

                #1018416
                patfrantz
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                    Hi Joellen & all you WC Folks!

                    I am glad to see the response I got to the information I put forth about the ventilation question. If a person is doing a lot of flame working it is super important to make sure you have good ventilation!
                    Joellen asked where she could get ‘The Flow’ magazine, so she could read the serial article on Glass Fume Toxicity. You can write to “The Flow’ at 713 WSW Loop #101, Tyler, TX 75701 or call Will Menzies at (903) 539-4806 just in case you don’t want to wait for snail mail to run it’s course. They are on their 4th issue and the article on Glass Toxicity is in all of them and you can easily get back issues of this magazine. I think it is a great flame workers magazine & it covers fornace work as well.

                    The borosilicate manufacturer that I refered to in my post is Henry Grimmett of Glass Alchemy and I asked him if he was open to recieveing calls about ventilation and he said he was. His phone number is (503) 460-0545. He is a wealth of information
                    on this subject and has been doing extensive research on behalf of the flameworking community.

                    Sorry I was so slow in answering Joellen about this post, but I have been super busy. I have rounded up the photos I have taken of my personal ventilation system & will attempt to post them tonight after work.

                    Pat Frantz

                    #1018396
                    Joellen
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                        Thanks, Pat! I appreciate your help!

                        – Jo

                        #1018382
                        Plato
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                            Just incase anyone missed this thread….

                            https://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145111

                            #1018417
                            patfrantz
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                                Hi!
                                I think Henry Grimmett is a better person to ask this question to.
                                He understands the whole air flow per min. past the person flame working thing far better than I do & is willing to talk to you if you want. Read my last post & you will find his phone number.
                                Flame on, flame on!
                                Ciao,
                                Pat Frantz

                                #1018383
                                Plato
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                                    Perhaps you could persude Henry Grimmett to visit WC and share his knowledge with all of us;) ??

                                    Plato:)

                                    #1018397
                                    Joellen
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                                        Whew!! My husband talked to Henry at Glass Alchemy yesterday and gave him all the measurements and specs of our studio and vent hood, and I’m SO RELIEVED that he said our system should be very good for our space. He did suggest that we drape some fiberglass/silicon-coated material down from the bottom edges of the hood to the table surface on the sides where no one will be sitting, kind of closing in the area a little and making the exhaust there more efficient. He also suggested some type of general room air exhaust for the rest of the room, which my husband will accomplish by running another duct out from the vent system into the center of the room overhead. It will exchange the air much slower than the air inside the torch area, which will be fine, according to Henry. (Apparently some pollutants are released at high pressure and will get by the torch ventilation, and this general room exhaust will take care of them.) He also said that we really shouldn’t need the 800 CFM fan for our space, so we’re dropping down to a 400 CFM.

                                        I am so much happier about our new studio now. This ventilation issue really had me worried. I’m so grateful that Henry was willing to talk to us about it.

                                        – Jo

                                        #1018428

                                        Hi Folks!

                                        Man, this is the third time I have tried to post my venting system photos on this thread! The dang web site keeps telling me my photos are too big and I lose the whole post!
                                        I am not going to say anything more because I have lost all my text of the other post & I am tired of repeating myself for nothing!
                                        Here are four photos of different views of my venting system. From the inside, the fan, the outside duct & one of the work stations. Hope this helps some of you out there who wonder what to do about a venting system.

                                        Pat Frantz

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                                        Plato
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                                            Thank you:)

                                            Plato

                                            #1018387
                                            MikeAurelius
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                                                Patty – is that a propane tank I see half hidden behind your chair?

                                                If so, naughty naughty. Get it outside and melt glass safely please!

                                                Mike Aurelius
                                                President
                                                Aura Lens Products, Inc.

                                                "You can either take action, or you can hang back and hope for a miracle. Miracles are great, but they are so unpredictable." -- Peter Drucker

                                                #1018429

                                                Dear Mike,

                                                Sorry to disappoint you Mr. Aurelius, but it is just an empty tank setting in my shop where I keep other kinds of tanks. All flame workers should know that it is important to keep your fuel source away from your work area ( propane outside).

                                                If there are any flame workers out there in glass land that would like to see the photos larger, I would be happy to post them separately. In fact there is one photo of the other work bench that shows how I have a kiln on the table to place large rods in to warm them up before I use them. I’m talking 15 to 20mm size rods that I heat up to use for blowing hollow forms like beads, perfume bottles or goblets out of soft glass using a small boro tube.

                                                Glass is so exciting and there is no end to what you can do, even with a small set up. Who needs a big expensive glass blowing studio-NOT ME!

                                                For those people who get sore backs, you should look into putting elbow rests on either side of your torch to give your back
                                                some help. There are pre-made padded ones you can buy or you can make them from a board like I did & loosely bolt them to your table so that you can push them out of the way when you need to.

                                                Pat Frantz

                                                #1018392
                                                Ted Trower
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                                                    I’ve noticed recently that back issues of The Flow magazine are available from the publisher on ebay.

                                                    #1018388
                                                    MikeAurelius
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                                                        It’s not a matter of disappointment, Mrs. Frantz, its a matter of studio safety. Full or empty, propane tanks have no place in the studio. And, it’s not just safety, its the law in many jurisdictions.

                                                        Additionally, it also looks like your oxygen tank is not chained in place. If that tank ever fell over and the valve broke off, it would become at torpedo. This is also basic studio safety and the law in many jurisdictions.

                                                        Mike Aurelius
                                                        President
                                                        Aura Lens Products, Inc.

                                                        "You can either take action, or you can hang back and hope for a miracle. Miracles are great, but they are so unpredictable." -- Peter Drucker

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