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  • #485151
    LindseyB33
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        Hello my fellow art/pigment nerds!! I’ve been stalking this website for about a year but I finally have a worth my question to ask y’all that I haven’t quite answerd. Now I know this is a personal choice but I’ve been debating this color for so long I thought I’d ask what orange do y’all like? Do you prefer transparent or opaque and how do you use it?

        I currently have quin burnt orange though I use it more as a mixer and I’m possibly looking for I brighter orange. I do a lot of landscape style watercolor but I also do some animation/children’s book type paintings (I’m a beginner so they are not masterpieces yet) and I’m currently exploring all different avenues(genres?) of watercolor to see what I enjoy painting. . I’ve been wanting to add orange for a long while. I know orange is a useful and easy color to mix but when I’m sketching sometimes I just want a premixed color I can have to lean one way or another as needed for quick paintings.

        Anywho. What, if any orange do you have on your palette? Is it transparent or opaque and how do you use it? Thank ya!

        #959061
        calvin_0
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            I have Pyrrole Orange Red Shade (PO73) in my palette. I use it to mix brown and darks.

            and I think transparency is kinda meaningless when come to watercolor as any opaque pigment like the cadmium arent truly opaque.

            I have used both cadmium yellow pale (PY35) and imidazolone yellow (PY154) and I dont see any differ when come to mixes…

            #959052

            I have New Gamboge and Winsor Orange.

            Doug


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            #959059
            janecorrarino
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                I mix my own cadmium orange, using cadmium red and cadmium yellow. It’s a brilliant color

                #959065
                LindseyB33
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                    I have Pyrrole Orange Red Shade (PO73) in my palette. I use it to mix brown and darks.

                    and I think transparency is kinda meaningless when come to watercolor as any opaque pigment like the cadmium arent truly opaque.

                    I have used both cadmium yellow pale (PY35) and imidazolone yellow (PY154) and I dont see any differ when come to mixes…

                    That’s true on the opacity side. I’ve found myself using opaque and semi transparent paints waterd down with little issues and I’ve used transparent colors thickly to act more opaque. I didn’t know PO73 came in shades but it does make sense since it could lean one direction or another.

                    #959066
                    LindseyB33
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                        I mix my own cadmium orange, using cadmium red and cadmium yellow. It’s a brilliant color

                        I don’t currently have any cads on my palette to make it. While I can mix some bright oranges I am a tad lazy sometimes and just want a premixed color 😂. It’s why I keep quin purple on my palette too.

                        #959060
                        Violet Lake
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                            I like to do illustrative stuff too, and orange is a staple mixing color that I use to make greens, browns, flesh tones, etc. I prefer a “middle” type of orange, not too yellow or too red. PO36 was my favorite for a long time, but it’s not available in too many brands, and I recently switched over to Winsor & Newton transparent orange which is now officially my perfect orange; it’s very similar in hue and the added transparency makes it just a bit more useful to me for things like glazing and the overall clarity of my colors.

                            In my Daniel Smith palette, quin burnt orange is my workhorse pigment mostly because it mixes well for so many uses, but also partly because they don’t carry a base single pigment orange that I like, which is really surprising to me considering how many colors they offer. I usually mix it with PR255 when I want a shade that’s similar to straight PO36, or just traditional yellow + red if I need a true orange for something.

                            #959063
                            Lavendulan
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                                PO62 Like WN Winsor orange is to me the color of an actual orange. Lovely and bright.
                                PO36 – I have Mijello Autumn Orange – is just gorgeous, but more of a red orange. The reddest of all my oranges is PO73, also pretty.

                                Lora
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                                #959054
                                janinco
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                                    I have Daniel Smith Permanent Orange (PO62 like Winsor Orange). It’s pretty easy to lift and very transparent. I also mix it with Quin Burnt Orange to tone it down a little.

                                    Jan

                                    #959058
                                    otherworlder
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                                        I have Daniel Smith’s transparent pyrrole orange (PO71) and I use it as a warm red, absolutely love the color, and really saddened that their formula seems to have changed and the current version of it looks nothing like the old tube I got 3-4 years ago. But their current PO71 is still very lovely and leans very red.

                                        #959053

                                        I’m loving M. Graham’s Azo Orange PO62. It’s vibrant and transparent. A rose by any other name, eh? :lol:

                                        Char --

                                        CharMing Art -- "Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art." Leonardo DaVinci

                                        #959056
                                        Harold Roth
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                                            I love perinone orange (PO43). This is a semi-opaque reddish orange with a powdery aspect. Handprint describes it as similar to cadmium red orange. I don’t use cadmiums, so I don’t know about that. I just know it is one juicy orange.

                                            #959067
                                            LindseyB33
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                                                Thank you everyone for you input! I mixed a lovely orange with my perelyene scarlet and hansa yellow deep. I think I may purchase the schmincke transparent orange, though that pyrol orange is also calling. I do seem drawn more towards semi transparent/ Opaque paints. But I think it’s because I have used acrylics and some gouache. I’m trying hard to really learn watercolors for its on uniqueness so I think I’ll go more transparent.

                                                #959068
                                                LindseyB33
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                                                    In my Daniel Smith palette, quin burnt orange is my workhorse pigment mostly because it mixes well for so many uses, but also partly because they don’t carry a base single pigment orange that I like, which is really surprising to me considering how many colors they offer. I usually mix it with PR255 when I want a shade that’s similar to straight PO36, or just traditional yellow + red if I need a true orange for something.

                                                    This is why I love quin burnt orange as well. I use it a lot like a burnt sienna and I’m also in the same boat that I don’t really like any of their oranges. They pyrrol orange made me think about it but it’s almost too artificial in a way. I usually go for Daniel smith in everything but ultramarine (I don’t like how Daniel smiths shrinks) and apparently bright oranges.

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                                                    calvin_0
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                                                        This is why I love quin burnt orange as well. I use it a lot like a burnt sienna and I’m also in the same boat that I don’t really like any of their oranges. They pyrrol orange made me think about it but it’s almost too artificial in a way. I usually go for Daniel smith in everything but ultramarine (I don’t like how Daniel smiths shrinks) and apparently bright oranges.

                                                        well IMO, like phthalo green, pyrrole orange is a mixing color, so you arent suppose to use it as is.. if you want need an orange for your painting for whatever reason, it’s much better to mix it yourself.. unless you want a almost neon like orange.

                                                        and orange doesnt need to be an orange in your palette, which is why i choose pyrrole orange red shade (PO73), it leans so much toward red that it can be a warm red as well which give it a bigger mixing range than just plain orange. as a bonus, it also tint into a salmon pink, a color that is quite difficult to get correct.

                                                        you can also choose an orange that lean toward yellow as well, as most people tend to do. that is why people use indian yellow, cadmium yellow deep and new gamboge.

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