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September 5, 2012 at 3:59 pm #1171067
Unbeliveable…. I do NOT have this pigment in my box!
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September 5, 2012 at 4:07 pm #1171052Thank you, Juha, for the photos. I will have to try those mixes with the Schmincke…
I should have said it was Indianthrene Blue, but can never remember/spell it! :o
Its pigment name which selled often Delft Blue. and this pigment and these Peylenes are way too upderappreciated stuff. same goes also Umton Barvy paints. i really try paint something and show it.
September 5, 2012 at 6:15 pm #1171060WHOA, Caryl! No PB60!!!! ALL THOSE COLORS (reference: Organizational Tool above) AND NO PB60!!!! But, then again, it is Underappreciated .
It is a lovely darkish blue when used juicy, and that pale blue when diluted, and I could kick myself for not playing with it sooner! But, yes, I am shocked at you Caryl
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Under the Concrete are Flowers Yet to be Born...from a Chilean PoemSeptember 6, 2012 at 6:24 am #1171040Delft Blue is the same as Antwerp Blue which is a weaker Prussian blue
It is a strong green blue, great for mixing greens with any yellow or earth
The blue diluted is wonderful for blue skys
And when strongly for terribly moody storm skysIndrothern Blue is totally different
September 6, 2012 at 8:01 am #1171039Delft Blue is the same as Antwerp Blue which is a weaker Prussian blue
It is a strong green blue, great for mixing greens with any yellow or earth
The blue diluted is wonderful for blue skys
And when strongly for terribly moody storm skysIndrothern Blue is totally different
Schmincke calls it’s indanthrone blue Delft blue. The word Delft isn’t a name of a pigment but comes from a type of blue and white pottery, so the word is used as a desription of what the blue looks like not what pigment it contains.
There might be other manufactors that use the the word Delft for blues containing other pigments than PB60.September 6, 2012 at 12:47 pm #1171061Hello, Neeman! From what I understand, Antwerp Blue is a type of Prussian Blue. In fact, I had a small tube, compared it with my Prussian and opted out to just use my Prussian, as it was basically the same but richer. The loveliest of blues (both Antwerp & Prussian) to mix greens!
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Under the Concrete are Flowers Yet to be Born...from a Chilean PoemSeptember 6, 2012 at 6:33 pm #1171045to me delft blue is red blue not much red but little.
September 6, 2012 at 9:29 pm #1171056First, Neeman, I have to apologize…I do not have a clue as to why my reply to you was in Blue – I guess I hit a wrong key somewhere? :o :o :o You always have such good insight and advice, and I hope I didn’t offend in any way? :o :o :o
And, JPQ, I agree with you that the Delft has a bit of warm to it. Winsor & Newton says their Indianthrene is “cool” – and I really don’t see it as having a yellow or green tinge. I also didn’t see it as being cool in your examples.
Ah, well, I guess many people see different nuances in color… I understand there are even folks who see a color and “smell a smell” when they see that color…the scientists are still trying to figure THAT one out!
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Under the Concrete are Flowers Yet to be Born...from a Chilean PoemSeptember 8, 2012 at 3:38 pm #1171064Delft is is PB 60, stay away from PB15
September 9, 2012 at 2:25 pm #1171053Delft is is PB 60, stay away from PB15
PB15 have own uses at least for me. even prussian blue have own uses and i going use my very bad student grade prussian blue (form Schmincke) for special things.:)
September 10, 2012 at 4:14 am #1171042Schmincke calls it’s indanthrone blue Delft blue. The word Delft isn’t a name of a pigment but comes from a type of blue and white pottery, so the word is used as a desription of what the blue looks like not what pigment it contains.
There might be other manufactors that use the the word Delft for blues containing other pigments than PB60.Been to the Delft potteries
Even been in the kids ward of the Delft Hospital….
They hung a huge painting of mine on the wall
I was 6
But this is a different storyI wish to correct myself in the color
Cobalt Oxide is the metal oxide used in the glaze for the blue of Delft pottery
So Delft blue is a cobalt blueSo how paint manufactuers use the name is something else
September 10, 2012 at 4:21 am #1171041what brand is the delft? *pigment numbers please
on the screen it looks a lot like my holbein lavendar which is pv 15, pb29, pw6 which makes it a little opaque
Harken to these Words of Wisdom aboveDo NOT get stuck in the Brand’s name
The pigment number tells us more
Then the color and properties of the paint of the same pigment number will change from brand to brandThis is where Bruce McEnvoy’s Handprint comes in useful as a reference,
(not a bible)And samples shown on a screen varies for everyones monitor and can only show gross colors
September 10, 2012 at 10:23 am #1171068I wasn’t STUCK on the brand’s name. I wanted to know what brand she had in her hand that was calling its pigment Delft blue.
As delft blue wouldn’t be the same pigment in any other brand, which is why I asked for the brand and the pigment number.
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September 11, 2012 at 12:03 am #1171043I wasn’t STUCK on the brand’s name. I wanted to know what brand she had in her hand that was calling its pigment Delft blue.
As delft blue wouldn’t be the same pigment in any other brand, which is why I asked for the brand and the pigment number.
I did not mean to imply that you were stuck
September 12, 2012 at 4:46 pm #1171054I wasn’t STUCK on the brand’s name. I wanted to know what brand she had in her hand that was calling its pigment Delft blue.
As delft blue wouldn’t be the same pigment in any other brand, which is why I asked for the brand and the pigment number.
I understanded real delft blue is also this same pigment when its real thing. but i know some brands use weird mixes i think Schmincke ultramarine blue (not ultramarine blue finest) have also pg7 noth only french ultramarine (pb29). but something like it something what i cannot understand why.
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