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January 19, 2004 at 6:49 pm #983880
I’ve read alot of posts regarding Natural Gas. My main ? is … what do I say when I contact my gas company ? I don’t want to freak them out by saying the wrong thing. Just a curious ? for all of you running the minor/NG setup. Is it true that you DO NOT need a regulator forthe NG line .. just hook it up and use the pressure thats given ? I will be using a oxy. con. from paulette. thnx so much in advance for replies.
chad
rezJanuary 19, 2004 at 6:55 pm #1021981Chad,
I didn’t contact my gas company……. just a plumber to come in and get me a line from my NG line to my bench. There has been alot of discussion on how you should do the hook up…… I’ll see if I can find some threads or you could do a search.And nope…. no regulator… the pressure is not high enough to require it.
Good luck!
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January 19, 2004 at 7:21 pm #1021980Chad –
I had my plumber do it, too. He ran a black pipe line with an emergency cutoff. Only took a couple of hours, including drilling through 14″ of concrete foundation to run my ventilation. As I recall, Meg Alef (I’m pretty sure it was Mags) posted a photo of her hookup on the ISGB forum (http://www.isgb.org) and I gave it to my plumber to study.
There are also a number of informative threads here and on the ISGB forum (on ISGB, look for the one captioned “natural gas vs. propane”) that pretty much told me all I needed to know before I got it hooked up.
Just be sure you use a plumber who is familiar with the local codes!
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Happiness is opening your kiln in the morning and finding a bead you would've bought if you were still buying...January 19, 2004 at 7:30 pm #1021975I had my HVAC guy do it. My furnace died a month-ish ago, and he was fascinated with my studio setup. I showed him what I did (I was using propane at the time) and showed him my brand new natural gas booster (necessary because of the really low gas pressure here: a whopping .2).
He did my natural gas drop for me, and it works smashingly! I love working with natural gas, and am thrilled to not be dealing with propane anymore.
Chad, what kind of torch are you using?
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EtsyJanuary 19, 2004 at 7:43 pm #1021989either a Bobcat or Nortel minor . and thnx so much for the help!
chad
January 20, 2004 at 12:04 am #1021982I am planning to soon hook up my new minor to natural gas. Can any of you using it tell me approx. how much your gas bill went up?
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justbeadsJanuary 20, 2004 at 7:51 am #1021984Hi, I called the gas company to check on the presure of gas being delivered to the house. It was 7 inches of presure, which is right for a minor. A plumber put in the pipe. Natural gas and a oxy concentrator run my minor well. This spring I will get an additional concentrator for working with boro. Ellen
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January 20, 2004 at 9:07 am #1021983Hi Chad – I use a nortel minor w/ a concentrator and natural gas . . .and I actually DID contact my gas company to come out and drop a new line to my studio and they told me they wouldn’t come out to do that and to contact a plumber! So, that’s what I did. It took the better part of an afternoon to get everything done, then a little extra time to get the exact fitting so the red hose would connect to the gas ‘faucet’ thingie in the wall. Now I’m rockin’ and rollin’
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Ginnovations.comJanuary 20, 2004 at 9:32 am #1021976I spent an inordinate amount of time dealing with the whole gas issue. Here is a little tidbit for y’all relating to the gas/plumber thing:
After October 28, 2002 individuals who install, replace, or repair service lines and meter settings must be QUALIFIED in accordance with Title 49 Code of Federal Regulations, Department of Transportation Part 192, Subpart N. Operator Qualification is a federally mandated program of the Department of Transportation’s Office of Pipeline Safety. Here is the website to reference the code.
This paragraph was on my gas company’s website, along with a link to a list of qualified plumbers in my area.
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EtsyJanuary 21, 2004 at 2:51 pm #1021990heyas all,
just got off the phone with my gas company and thought I would share the info…my house is 3 yrs old and I have 2lbs (28 inches?) of gas coming in .. I thought they were crazy when they told me this but its true. So as long as I have a HVAC company install and have the city inspect the lines , with regulator, i will be fine and of course have their blessing to use up some more gas!! yeah . Thnx again for all the replies and help , I’m soooo close to getting it all together and making glass.
thnx,
chadJanuary 21, 2004 at 4:13 pm #1021986I spent an inordinate amount of time dealing with the whole gas issue. Here is a little tidbit for y’all relating to the gas/plumber thing:
After October 28, 2002 individuals who install, replace, or repair service lines and meter settings must be QUALIFIED in accordance with Title 49 Code of Federal Regulations, Department of Transportation Part 192, Subpart N. Operator Qualification is a federally mandated program of the Department of Transportation’s Office of Pipeline Safety. Here is the [URL=http://ops.dot.gov/regulations/2001/part192.htm]website [/URL] to reference the code.
This paragraph was on my gas company’s website, along with a link to a list of qualified plumbers in my area.
Tink–They are talking about the service line,which is the line from the main line line out at the street to the gas meter.Anyone who worked on a service line allways had to be qualified.We are talking about the house line,the line from the meter into the house.
Here in N.E. Ohio(formaly East Ohio Gas-now Dominion) if you want to work on your house line and add something,or remove,go ahead,you don’t have to call anyone.
csamson-Can I ask where you are from that you have 2lb of gas pressure.2lb of pressure is a little over 55 inches of water column.28 inches of water column is around 1 lb of pressure.Just curious
Tim
Tim
Semper FiJanuary 21, 2004 at 6:47 pm #1021985I run my minor on natural gas. I tapped into the line in my basement,had to buy the proper fittings, flash arrestor and shut off. You must use black pipe and the yellow gas teflon tape on your joints. Last summer the gas company replaced my meter outside and I had them look at my setup and they told me they would have done it the same way,so it was nice to get their blessing. You can do it yourself, its not hard.
JeffJanuary 21, 2004 at 7:21 pm #1021991Tim – I’m in Charlotte, NC and I built my house 3 yrs ago … they said to go outside and look at the meter….on the regulator, the white face indicates 7 inches and the red face indicates 2lb’s …. i have the red face … i asked if that was high and he said in most new homes that you can expect 2lbs. This was a Supervisor in the service part of Piedmont Natural Gas here in town.
chad
January 21, 2004 at 8:02 pm #1021987Tim – I’m in Charlotte, NC and I built my house 3 yrs ago … they said to go outside and look at the meter….on the regulator, the white face indicates 7 inches and the red face indicates 2lb’s …. i have the red face … i asked if that was high and he said in most new homes that you can expect 2lbs. This was a Supervisor in the service part of Piedmont Natural Gas here in town.
chad
Chad
I’m guessing the meter sets a good distance from the house? If so the line after the meter comes into the house and I bet there is another regulator on that line,which would be your houseline.Let me know,now I’m real curious.
TimTim
Semper FiJanuary 21, 2004 at 8:05 pm #1021992Tim – nope , sits right beside the house nxt to the A/C compressors. The only appliance I have using gas would be the hot water heater. I’m sure there must be a regulator somewhere, Tommorrow I’ll walk the line and let ya know. On the actual green gas meter there is a red dial that did indicate 2lbs also. I’ll get the digi camera out tomm and take a quick picture for everyone. Not saying I don’t think you believe me , just to show referance
chad
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