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January 11, 2020 at 12:18 pm #482520
Yesterday I made these figures, while before I made mostly hands, spheres. I tried to review a little perspective but simple, I did little as drawings (a little I did like loomis heads but in a few days anyway little), in general I will try more and to resume their studies, copies of the teachers
I made some new purchases.
On Monday I took the first issue of thishttps://www2.deagostini.com/it/prodotti/caschi-star-wars/EE5683000000
the good Darth
3.99 collection, 1/5 scale, about 10 cm I think.this
Taken thinking of drawing it, made a couple of sketches, others I don’t think of taking them,it’s not worth it and they’re small, right?
Doubt was stontrooper because it is white, c3PO (for sympathy and that is a little head),
€ 15 each one should save me this and possibly take a cast, true
By the way I wanted to say about the other purchase, I had tried to cast, 2 months ago I had tried to search
Thinking of politely asking Artistost for confirmation, advice before ordering a cast that I would find.
So I was not wrong and I took something suitable.
*But the ones I had found online
They were https://www.amazon.it/dp/B01CMKUZB4/ref=psdc_2911135031_t1_B07Q3VKZN4
https://www.amazon.it/dp/B01CMKUZB4/ref=psdc_2911135031_t1_B07Q3VKZN4
*but it was these or the like and reading and viewing photos
but I excluded them that they are actually too small for drawing (right?)
Piccolini,
I tried to look bigger and attention was over on this site
https://www.felicecalchi.com/calchi-per-il-disegno/
these seem incredible and with them he talks about the design (we are probably talking about something professional, something wasted for me but I hope to make sure that it is not so in the future and maybe I can afford them even if in these cases, when maybe we talk about less small expenses one wonders but maybe I need it to grow or one must already be of a certain level for things like this (for paper years ago I asked for this but I was wrong, there, for pencils I think it’s still worth trying, getting an idea like say)) (I don’t know the price, and in any case there was also the fact of the space and I don’t know if I have room for size but these).
So I didn’t ask that I thought I’d see before if I found something else (for a comparison maybe) See better also other sites, search again.I don’t know if we can talk about cast, however, these days I have seen and then taken a model of David by Michelangelo, (this you see in the picture, about 15 cm, I wanted to ask you if you think it is a good idea, if it is fine as a precision for practice, head, ears, etc. if this reproduction is good as a size or if possible, I have to take something
do I have to look, to see at natural size? 1/1 scale,, I thought about centimeters but I don’t know which to start from. 30, 50 cm or even 15I took a new album, found a smooth album of 100 a3 sheets, (recycled paper newspaper, so I also try this type of paper and large album which however is also convenient for a3 ream so I try newspaper)
*also took some pencils. Colored pencils, like black pencils months ago I wanted to take PRISMACOLOR PC935 that said Artistoz, I really liked the description, I really like pencils like this (among the things I tried I loved polycrome and derwetnt sketching 2b or 4b above all) for circular shape, for black you can get and they are more friendly than charcoals, unlike coal or Contèparis you don’t have to worry about staining and dust doesn’t make me mild allergy. online I found PRISMACOLOR PC935 but 15 € in pencil because they are external sellers (I did not find them sold by amazon or in the shop), black and sanguine polycrome 10 € each, so I thought of using the ones I had, I have some pencils soft staedler etc.
I took CarbOthello English Deep Red, in the end I took this, I thought that if they were like pencils I bought them black and maybe in the future also blue, otherwise for black I still used pencils that I had and then more. (maybe 4b or 6b in graphite or set always in grafiste, castel)
tried in the foil with drawing by Goofy (goffy)
I think they are very similar to charcoal, which are charcoals, which are good as charcoal qualities and what price can make them convenient (12 pencils sell them for 10 euros or 20 euros), I think you may like to try them if you are looking for an alternative to conte paris.thanks for seeing and sorry chatter
vadercarbhotello (is Goofy, old toy, about 8 cm)
david
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January 12, 2020 at 5:45 am #931537I like these gesture drawings. One with a head appears oversized.
Arlene - C & C always appreciated
Website: http://arlene-babad.pixels.com
instagram.com/ababadartJanuary 12, 2020 at 11:17 am #931539Arl thank you very much for kind words and for feedback. now I see it, thank you very much.
Yesterday I did yesterday I made the shoe.
Perspective deceived me a bit for the size, I used A4 sheet. I therefore want to do it again with sheet A3.
I thought to do it again in this week maybe 2 or 3 times and maybe in the future I try an old shoe.another sheet made from a model head, made day that I said in which I had not combined much, sometimes I mistreat them so the sheets.
among the things for which I have to thank you endlessly and for the suggestion to use reams of paper. this makes me practice more and with a better spirit. Thanks for all- C & C welcome ( comments and criticisms highly appreciated)
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January 13, 2020 at 12:32 pm #931538some good work in here Joe :0
Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art - Leonardo da Vinci
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https://www.instagram.com/the_henson_gallery/January 14, 2020 at 1:05 am #931536Joe the prismacolor pencils here sell for €1.89 a piece and a set of 12 for €21.64 so I’d keep looking for a better price.
I wouldn’t recommend a cast portrait less then 30cms in height you want something similar to life size. Do you have statues in your town, I imagine all over Italy there would be many statues perhaps for you to practice on? Do you have an art gallery or museum to visit and find suitable subjects? Maybe there is an art student wanting to sell a bust to you if you live near an art school?
If you can’t find subjects to observe and draw from I would suggest you look at construction or look into figure invention as a means to understand the figure. It’s what I have to do as I also have no models or statues in my small town so I’m going to have to invent my own.
You could set some goals and focus on mastering each which means you keep working on the subject until you have a lot of confidence with it. I also suggest you copy Old Master drawings asking yourself why they make the marks they are doing this analysing will help you understand their process.
Bill,
https://www.flickr.com/photos/artistoz/
Instagram, billwperryJanuary 14, 2020 at 4:11 pm #931540David, thank you very much
Artistoz thank you very much for all the valuable advice.
Thanks 1000 for the price info, they actually have a normal price so,
then it is on the internet that they are not cheap, unless they lower prices or treat them in the future other sellers do not agree (same thing online for black or sanguine polycromes, polycrome I have 13 different colors because I had found a mixed set of 12 and then a Polychromos Artists’ color N / A Pompeian Red).
I will try in physical stores, on the first occasion in more well-stocked stores, so eventually I stock them up (either if there is a set or if they have loose them).
thank you for indicating cast height
.eventually I won’t look for anything with lower height. (david maybe I’ll use it especially for some still life (for these I thought above all improving shading, also for cups, bottles, but maybe sometimes also as a start))
As art galleries or museums in the area to be able to draw no, but true about the statues, especially by moving a little.
I am in a country in the old part of the country and under the beginning of the same (in the last 20 years some things have closed a bit that people have mostly moved to the new part of the country where they built houses and opened shops and moved schools, from me there are offices, machines, pizzerias but also several churches, in the summer it gets a bit populated,),
on art students there is an academy in my region, in calabria but about 3 hours from me (online information that I found were only on private lessons in some cities), but in the city, in the capital they actually do exhibitions, there is movement, the fixed museum is virtual, it is an interactive room that has been short-lived and that therefore is always there, but I was seeing that periodically they also make other beautiful initiatives.
but I said of the course they had done in 2014 in the area, from me, I read, looked for information about it,
in the mid 90’s a painter who had moved in the 70/80 years made an association, a club that initially planned some exhibitions, from 2000 to 2006 annually the association in person, organized courses, had become a school of drawing and painting for children but also for adults.
2014 article said that in 2014 the courses were back (it was a 6 month course I read), they have a website (whose manager is always this painter and there is an email) and a facebook site,website now speaks of culture and fashion, as art, as events there are no news after 2014 because subsequently they talk a lot about fashion shows.
On facebook instead, the updates are up to 2016 and the news was about art and painting.the person in charge of both is always the same artist and is a painter and cultural communicator,
there is a link to his facebook page, seen only on the first page and reporting residence santo domingo. he will have moved.
I don’t know if trying to write an email anyway if it is not a bad idea, possibly saying that I was looking for drawing classes, being able to practice drawing from life, portrait etc, cast, being able to practice drawing in a nearby place and that I had read of the 2014 courses , if they possibly take care of this or if I can ask them for information on any of their initiatives for reference in the area possibly also a tip on where to buy supplies in the area and that I was looking for a used cast.HOWEVER about construction, invention, yes, it’s a good idea, it’s practical,
resources, books, etc., many resources on what you also mentioned to me, examples seem to be more about it, maybe I also start the loomis book of the figure, I was thinking this because years ago I bought a classic wooden mannequin, about 30 centimeters long I had never used, I was in doubt about the use at the moment, I don’t know if you think it is useful.in my case .
to be able to do it without talent and knowledge, I can perhaps push more on learning, or try to learn anatomy, on the use of the mirror maybe.
however, continuing to practice drawing from life as much as possible, as you said, games, etc., perhaps making sure that they are not just miniatures.
Basically if I become precise or I learn shading, only setting up a drawing takes the right time, just as it takes time shading,
that is, I mean that if I make a doodle this takes a few minutes, if I get to make a drawing this will take much longer then I will not make a thousand drawings but a more accurate one, the study of a master or a still life, anything. it becomes more quality than quantity therefore acnhe as a reference.
and yes on focusing on something, it is also a way to see improvements over time and fix something better,
you’re right, I want to do it, thank you very much and for do it correctly better than I put in writing the specific objectives, topics, subjects, so I stick to it and I remember and I find others at the right time (at the limit I thought about things too much in general).
you’re right even on the masters I hadn’t made them anymore (even if I wanted to continue with all those in the book too, trying to improve with lights and, smoother shading before hatching, and also the initial phase of the live drawing, going very slowly on these things I wasn’t going there anymore, I really have to do a written program to stick to it)
the last few months I had been thinking a bit about line and head and shading.Ps:
I have already posted posted things off topic so I was undecided whether to put them on the last 2 shoes I did, I had continued with one a day. I put these other 2 (last was Polychromos Artists Pompeian Red, I was wondering if it’s okay to use color at times for a monochromatic drawing) and for a few days I don’t publish shoes but things on the subject going back to masters and anatomy, head and shading (these things and cast I’d like to do continuously)Instead, yesterday I saw this book in the public domain about this teacher and I wanted to put the link.
https://books.google.it/books?id=4W2pQV49b20C&printsec=frontcover&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=falseAbout the teachers, I also wanted to write that
I have reviewed some posts on the masters on the forum and today I think I am doing thishttp://s3.amazonaws.com/wetcanvas-hdc/Community/images/01-Jan-2011/20772-Waterhouse_Dr1.jpg
sorry for the chatter and the many stupid things I write. on the news the news about australia hadn’t changed, a, i hope they get better soon.
a warm greeting- C & C welcome ( comments and criticisms highly appreciated)
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January 14, 2020 at 8:11 pm #931541I tried by monitor with sheet below, in the first, more with measurement ,, putting 2 points for height, measurements
*trying to align with pencil width and then comparing. Or negative space, the armpit made me think about what you were saying about it, to remember the usefulness that it has**(for the head here too I used a little loomis, head I hope it’s better because in the rest I think I messed around more and thought less then thinking about it leaves me more confident) shading this figure is a nice challenge and also the hair.
another attempt starting from loomis
. the small one at the end, fast, a minute as if it were a video.
For everyone the idea is to trash them metaphorically and practically and try better,
I don’t know if slower, (I tried a 2 or 3 hours or more) but still going forward when it seems better or trying again from before.
Tomorrow I’ll do it from scratch then,
perhaps always from a monitor like this or by putting myself further away, or if possible near the monitor, a little further down if possible. Almost attacked.or do it again by printing (or the day after tomorrow)
ps: but the third hour that I see it on the pc ……… ..
is the scream of MUnch,
is the wife …
I didn’t do it on purpose.now I was seeing the first versions in the post and the rest
https://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=839452&page=5
before trying or in the meantime I thought not because maybe I saw these or an interpretation more or like the original.
however they are beautiful,
probably
*this is an interesting and useful thing also to see how the studies must be approached and maybe find some mistakes that I made.- C & C welcome ( comments and criticisms highly appreciated)
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