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    Sumariel
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        Yvette, your English is understandable, that’s what counts. My pencils are Conté à Paris, and are rather hard, but not much harder than my Conté crayons. I like them both. I do not work in them all that often, because my training was in graphics, and I am trying to gain a handle on using the tools in more of a fine arts approach. I decided to start with graphite, and have worked my way to the Derwent Drawing Pencils, via Al’s portrait class, 102, 6: and, because they have such a wide range of uses, have just continued to explore them.

        Suzi

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        #1021337

        Are these the pencils you are talking about?

        We have them available, both for purchase in boxes of 12, and in some sets. You will find them here:

        http://www.dickblick.com/vendors/conte/%5B/URL%5D

        Nicholas-Jacques Conte invented a new process for manufacturing graphite pencils during the French Revolution, but the Conte Crayon came later.

        Howard Metzenberg
        Dick Blick Art Materials
        Highland Park, IL

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        #1021344
        *Deirdre*
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            The Conté website [/URL]answers all these questions! It’s also an interesting place for a look around!:wink2:

            [FONT="Tahoma"]Regards, Deirdre (Always pleased to get C&Cs!) Don't forget - comment on other threads in the forum as well as posting your own work - also, we encourage you to post WIPs, they help others to learn as well as you.
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            #1021345
            *Deirdre*
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                The Conté website [/URL]answers all these questions! It’s also an interesting place for a look around!:wink2:

                [FONT="Tahoma"]Regards, Deirdre (Always pleased to get C&Cs!) Don't forget - comment on other threads in the forum as well as posting your own work - also, we encourage you to post WIPs, they help others to learn as well as you.
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                #1021354
                gakinme
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                    Thank you everyone for the explanation. This is not totally about conte pencil but the difference between conte crayon and General’s Compressed Pastel chalk since I asked Dick Blick while trying to decide which to buy. I thought they might be the same thing with a different name and I was worried about buying Conte because it is made in China for the one that I was looking for.

                    Dick Blick replied as follows:

                    “Conté crayons are waxier and much firmer than soft pastels,
                    so they produce little dust and are easy to control. with a
                    blend of natural pigments, kaolin clay, and graphite”.

                    http://www.dickblick.com/zz202/01/%5B/URL%5D

                    The General’s Compressed Pastel Chalks are not a soft pastel,
                    and are considered relatively dust-free, but less so than the Conte.
                    They do not have the wax content the Conte does.

                    http://www.dickblick.com/zz229/78/%5B/URL%5D

                    Thank you, Trelane, for Rebecca’s site. It is so resourceful! Just what I need to learn figure drawing.

                    Sandra

                    #1021346
                    *Deirdre*
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                        Now you’ve got me confused!:lol: I was answering the no 1 post…so didn’t realise you’d asked too Sandra! :wink2:
                        But, these links are still valid as the thread was moved to the Learning Centre in D&S…so people asking similar questions can find the answers quickly too!

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                        #1021333

                        I looked at your link. It still doesn’t show the pencils I have. My pencils have a black barrel with the color on the end separated from the black with a white band. The color numbers i.e. 38, 05, etc. correspond to the color numbers on the 48 pastel pencils. I believe I have an older version of the conte pastel pencil that probably has been redesigned and updated in packaging or a discontinued line. I can’t find a simple contact link to ask the company directly about the model 3355 pencil. As I’ve stated before, this is not a major issue it was just a question of curiosity. They are wonderful pencils and I’m glad I have them and some day I might actually put them to good use.

                        Striving to create something pleasing and intriguing to the eye

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                        #1021347
                        *Deirdre*
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                            Aha! The penny drops…I have one of those marked 3355 which I picked up as a last of lot in a pot of similar pencils, black barrel white band, colour at the end…I also have Conté pastel pencils…they are not the same! the 3355 is a colour pencil….it has a waxy central core. The pastel pencil has a dry central core. Mystery solved!

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                            #1021349
                            Smokin
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                                Conte crayons as someone suggested is a clay + pigment that is mixed and baked and then dunked in oil to promote a smooth feeling line. They are a wonderful drawing tool and can really blend well and move on the paper. Depending how much clay isadded will determin how hard the crayon is.

                                Cante pastels or general’s pastel “crayon looking sticks” are pastels. Pastels are a binder+chalk+pigment. Depending on how you cook it or mix it, will give you a soft or harder pastel.

                                C&C always welcomed. Frank
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                                #1021353
                                ohio
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                                    Crayon is the French word for pencil. In other words, a Conte Crayon is a pencil like shape. The Conte’ Crayon is made from a pigment mixed with clay. It does come in a wooden cased stick (pencil) and is often sold as a Sketching Pencil. Conte a Paris does make a graphite pencil (graphite crayon) number 601. The 601 has a gray case, gold lettering, and soft silky graphite in side. They are not as large as the charcoal or crayon ‘pencil.’ They look very much like any regular pencil, but very difficult to find.

                                    #1021348
                                    texana6
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                                        Trelane, thanks for the link to Rebecca’s page and the work of Pierre Paul Prud’hon. Wonderful!

                                        Linda Wolff
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                                        #1021352
                                        Kenny
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                                            Time Warp!

                                            Kenny A. Chaffin
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                                            #1021355
                                            tazzy
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                                                Are these the pencils you are talking about?

                                                [IMG]http://www.dick-blick.com/items/204/25/20425-group-1-3ww-l.jpg[/IMG]

                                                We have them available, both for purchase in boxes of 12, and in some sets. You will find them here:

                                                [URL]http://www.dickblick.com/vendors/conte/[/URL]

                                                Nicholas-Jacques Conte invented a new process for manufacturing [I]graphite pencils[/I] during the French Revolution, but the Conte Crayon came later.

                                                Howard Metzenberg
                                                Dick Blick Art Materials
                                                Highland Park, IL

                                                This is kinda late…but Sax has Sepia, White and 3B Soft Black in their catalog. I checked out Blick, but haven’t a need, yet, for 12 or so of one color. Anyone know where to buy these “pencils” one per of the four colors? tazzy

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                                                #1021334

                                                Tazzy,
                                                The pictured Conte pencils are commonly available at most art supply, craft, and some office supply stores in the pictured set or pairs, i.e. black/white and sepia/sanguine.

                                                Striving to create something pleasing and intriguing to the eye

                                                www.marcasue.com
                                                #1021356
                                                tazzy
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                                                    Thanks. My nearest art supply, craft or office supply stores are 2 1/2 hours away. And then it is usually Hobby Lobby or the internet. tazzy

                                                    It is not a matter of thinking a great deal but of loving a great deal, so do whatever arouses you most to love. Saint Teresa of Avila

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