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Old 11-05-2011, 08:17 AM
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Looking for a gel medium replacement

I used to use an absolutely 100% clear gel medium for glazing, blending and floating shadows, that was made by Decoart. Only seemed to come in those dinky little bottles though. Yummy stuff to use and compatible with other brands of acrylics. Can't find it in Australia now and it appears it's been discontinued or renamed in the US. Was wondering if any of the Golden products might be a suitable replacement? I can now buy these in Australia. The Decoart gel was clear when you looked at it in the bottle and squeezed it out onto the palette. None of the usual acrylic medium cloudiness that almost diasppears when dry.

Anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: Looking for a gel medium replacement

I'm so sorry but I can't think of anything to help you. I use the cloudy stuff that dries clear. Have you tried to but it on-line from Artdeco? They do have an on-line store.
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Out of curiosity, was the product you used to use a gel that would dry on its own, if you didn't mix it with paint?

In terms of what you might find today, possibly the best thing would be one of the W&N mediums that use their new acrylic base which is less cloudy than usual.

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Re: Looking for a gel medium replacement

Go to your local signwriter supplies and get Tautflex thickener. this is used to make water based paint thick by acouple of drops added then mixed. No change in colour. I'm a retired signwriter/scenic artist on the Gold Coast and still use this on rare occasions.
Tautflex is an airbrush water based paint.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:02 PM
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Re: Looking for a gel medium replacement

Oh heavens! I just pulled out an old bottle of this Blending Gel and find it is a Plaid product and not a Decoart one. No wonder I could find no mention of it on the Decoart sites. It is still listed in the Plaid Aussie distributors website, but nobody is stocking it. I've written to the distributor asking about stockists. During my revised sleuthing I also found they stock my all time favourite brush cleaner which is also a Plaid product and not Decoart. No wonder I couldn't find it anymore. Their paints might not be artist's quality, but the above two products are brilliant for use with other acrylics.

Thanks for the reply Gayle.

Einion, I had not considered whether or not the gel dried without the addition of paint. Just pulled out an old bottle that had a smidgin still in it and no, it does not dry if used on its own. Now I think about it, the gel was always ready to use in a corner of my palette and never scummed over. What is the significance of this? I've used it with truly minute quantities of pigment to float shadows and it's dried just fine. This is intriguing.

It looks as if W & N might have solved the problem of acrylics drying darker, with their new base. We will have to get used to a whole new way of working and thinking.

Paznbaz, that Tautflex Thickener sounds interesting. D'ya mean signwriters still use paint????? I thought it was all computers these days. I'll go and knock on some doors when I next go to town and see if I can track some down. Thanks.
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Old 11-08-2011, 12:46 AM
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Re: Looking for a gel medium replacement

yeah, unfortunately the hands on trade has gone. I spent the last 14 yrs as scenic artist/signwriter at movie world on the gold coast before I retired 4yrs ago. one of the oldtime tradies who still prefer brushes to vinyl.
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Einion, I had not considered whether or not the gel dried without the addition of paint. Just pulled out an old bottle that had a smidgin still in it and no, it does not dry if used on its own. Now I think about it, the gel was always ready to use in a corner of my palette and never scummed over. What is the significance of this?
I was checking if it was a medium in the strict sense of the word. Because you described it as completely clear it immediately made me think it was technically an additive (many of which are water-clear) and not a medium per se, something that is acrylic binder at heart.

Odd that if used with small amounts of paint it will still dry, I would have expected it to yield gummy or sticky paint films if it doesn't dry on its own.

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Re: Looking for a gel medium replacement

It is an additive to improve the viscosity of the paint, primarily for the Tautflex airbrush water paints which are very thin, without altering the colour. I have used it with other acrylic paint with good results. Only minute drops are necessary stirring to thicken the paint. It is made by Vipond Paints in Victoria Australia
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Golden and Liquitex both offer similar chemical thickeners (in the case of Golden, type types - long and short rheology) for anyone that hasn't heard of this type of thing before.

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