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Old 03-05-2012, 11:36 PM
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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

Rain, whenever I close the book, I put a piece of computer paper in between so that the colors won't transfer to the next page.

The Derivan Liquid Pencil is basically a very thick paste of acrylic like paint. Very thick. It's also crumbly. So I dig it out with the wooden handle of my brush, plopped it into some receptable and mix it with lots of water and brush it on.

It dries very fast because I bought the non-rewettable type. I've seen a member used the rewettable type as thin as watercolor. The watermedia forum should have a thread on this product and some test pieces.

I've been experimenting on using graphite powder as the underpainting and then paint watercolor on top. It gives me better control than this rather thick paint.
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Now I'm really intrigued. Graphite powder as watercolor. Tell us all about it, please?
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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

The last two look great!!! Looks like you're having fun with these.
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Definitely a mountain top feel to that last one.
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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

I second Margo's request about your graphite powder method too! Thanks for the explanation on the Derivan liquid pencil. I might try it one of these days.
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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

Thank you, Joan, Margo, Debby, Rain, for your comments.

Here is a thread where I posted a few experiments on graphite powder.

This morning, I did a few quick tests again on Stillman & Birn Alpha 9x12 inch.

This one has four quadrants. I used General's Charcoal Powder and Daniel Smith watercolor.

Top left - powder applied with pan pastel knife with sponge tip. Then plain watercolor with very little water. This is by far the cleanest way to apply graphite powder on paper because the sponge tool pack the powder in and there's very little dust flying around.

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Lower left - powder applied with a stiff paint brush which will scatter the dust. Then you have to salvage it by using a paper towel to smudge it and clean it up. A bit messy. Then added plain watercolor with very little water.

Top right - powder mixed with watercolor and water and paint like paint.

Lower right - powder applied with paper towel, then sprayed workable fixative. When dried, add diluted watercolor.



This one is using up the residue paint from top right. For smooth strokes like these, Alpha is not the ideal paper. Chinese rice paper or heavy Arches paper is better where absorption is immediate and it wouldn't pool.




On a small Stillman Alpha hardbound sketchbook, I continued the experiment.

Powder applied with sponge tool
Added Ritmo Charcoal pencil details
Highligts lifted with kneaded eraser
Spray workable fixative



When dried, put a layer of Daniel Smith watercolor and make patterns here and there with the one inch brush. With fixative, I don't have to worry about graphite color running.



Put it into photoshop for fun.

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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

Very interesting Sandra. Thanks for sharing. I think I have a tube of the graphite for fixing locks. Didn't work for that so time to use for something else. I do have some of the derivan as well, bought and tossed in a drawer! Oh and some jars of sparkly powder. Now see what you started?!
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The creativity of your experiments never ceases to amaze!
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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

Fascinating experiments.
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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

Yeah, Margo, give graphite powder a try. Thanks for comments, everyone.

Here are a few more.

Graphite powder with Neocolor II and wash on Stillman Alpha 9x12 inch hardbound



Daniel Smith watercolor and graphite powder.

At times, I used the powder with water to make ink to color on colored underpainting.

Stillman Delta 6x8 inch



These two are on Stillman Alpha 8x10 inch.

The first one is plain Daniel Smith watercolor Sodalite color which has granulation. I tend to use a lot of those subdued colors with granulation.



The next one is for Landscape challenge and it's Serpentine Genuine - a green and some parts mixed with graphite powder with wash.

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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

Wow, the graphite and neocolor II seemed to hook up well! Love the frog.
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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

Great seeing your experiments. The landscape is very cool, all in greens like that.
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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

Thank you, Rainy, Debby. Rainy, the Neocolor II washed with a tinge of graphite powder does work well. It's like graphitint colors in large swatches with the silvery sheen still intact after washing, unlike the real graphitint which sheds the silvery sheen once washed.

Here's a more serious attempt at a dryad.

Derwent Coloursoft and Faber Castell Polychromos colored pencils on Stillman & Birn Alpha 8x10 inch hardbound sketchbook. I think this is really the first time I used this purely dry without using any solvent - thinner or water for colored pencil in this sketchbook. It works well.

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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

Here's a nondescript space buidling done with Derwent Colorsoft and Derwent Graphitint Gray and then warped in Photoshop for background.

Stillman & Birn Alpha 8x10 inch hardbound sketchbook

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Re: Fantasy with Stillman & Birn Sketchbooks

Great work Sandra. Love the frog and the driad.
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