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The homework was for you to landscape subjects with soft edges and lost and found edges. It can decidious trees or evergreens.
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I found it hard to separate the left brain thinking about where the patches of wet paper were, from shaping the trees....a bit too much symmetry in the first but I liked the technique. The single tree, done first while I was watching your demo, worked best. These are tiny, about 3 inches high, watercolour.



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Last Sunday was awesome for watercolorists, I have improved my watercolor greatly from your teaching.

Leaf and evergreen done in wet and wet.



Leaf tree with hit and miss water, and a evergreen wet on dry with some edges defused.
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Edges Homework: Oils

What a fun technique, though I probably took too long with it, and let it get overworked. I think it would have been better to have had an abstract shape in mind beforehand, then done the brush loading and imitated the preconceived shape, in a fresher application.



I loved the colors loaded together on the brush, and the interesting way they marbled. I tried to soften some edges and leave others crisp.

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Edges Homework: Oils

What a fun technique, though I probably took too long with it, and let it get overworked. I think it would have been better to have had an abstract shape in mind beforehand, then done the brush loading and imitated the preconceived shape, in a fresher application.




I loved the colors loaded together on the brush, and the interesting way they marbled. I tried to soften some edges and leave others crisp.

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Nice job, nice shape! Now can you blur some of the areas on the right into the sky so it looks more 3D. More lost & found edges. The lost edge indicates that section of the tree goes back and the found edge (hard edge) indicates that area is closer to you.
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Edge Experiments I: Not a Pretty Picture...


Things that worked: the Paynes Grey clumps of distant trees floating soft-edged into the wet in wet sky. Some of the softer passages in the clouds. The variegation of colors in the orangy hill area, which was done wet in wet. Some of the shapes in the shoreline of the water bit. Getting the water darker than the sky.

Things that completely fell apart:

Dragging the Paynes Grey distant trees down over the edge of the original melodic horizon line I created by painting the whole sky area with water. If I was going to do that I should've washed the whole page first and then brought in broad masses of color wet in wet, then started refining specific areas in it.

Doing hard-edged areas of the painting without stopping short of the area I watered.

Playing with the water area after I got it too dark, trying to soften its hard edges, sponging out cloud reflections with a tissue. I should use a DAMP cloth or tissue for sponging out soft cloud reflections and try next time not to go right up to the edge of the washed area.

It would've been a lot prettier doing that water shape wet in wet, then refining it later wet on dry or wet on damp.

But this does have a variety of soft and hard edges and I did get a feel for the edges and ways to create them. More later. It'll be easier doing individual trees on white, I think, or I'll just tone a page with light blue to begin with and develop everything with light blue undertones. Or sketch my tree masses to begin with.

Since this was just goofing around I didn't plan its values. It'll become part of a stack of experiments or get recycled by toning the big white patch and turn it into pastel paper with pastel primer.

Let me know if you think it'd be worth treating it as a pastel underpainting or if it's hopeless at this point. I think values are mostly middle with possibly a mid-dark mass of trees situated in that big white unpainted area, could always value map it ex post facto to see what I can salvage with pastels. It's Montval practice paper anyway so it's not a great loss to treat it as a Failed Trial.

Next time I won't try to show off just painting spontaneously without a plan!
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The Arches 140 CP, 100% cotton paper made a huge difference. I still need to keep my focus on controlling the wetness of the paint and the brush. I forgot to dry my brush a few times and my paint would dry up so I would wet my paint and then it would be too wet. etc, etc.

One thing I did notice!! I would have a soft edge while the paper was still wet, but as the paper dried... the pigment would go up to the end of the wettness and later form a hard edge....the color was lighter in color and value but none the less it was physically a hard edge that was not there when I was finished painting????????????

I had a great time doing my homework; time flew by. I was amazed how long it took me, but it was time well spent. It is great having assignments to practice on!!!!! Thank you.....Thank you!!!!!
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The homework was for you to landscape subjects with soft edges and lost and found edges. It can decidious trees or evergreens.
Johannes, could you please explain what the homework is. I cannot watch live demos because of my satellite internet connexion so, I miss any instruction given. Thanks.
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I found it hard to separate the left brain thinking about where the patches of wet paper were, from shaping the trees....a bit too much symmetry in the first but I liked the technique. The single tree, done first while I was watching your demo, worked best. These are tiny, about 3 inches high, watercolour.




The wet on wet application is spot on. You were able to make a
a) Hard edge
b) soft edge
c) diffused edge

Remember if your tree shape can fit in circle even though it has some variations which makes it scientifically non symmetrical but visually, especially from a distance it would still be symmetrical.
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Last Sunday was awesome for watercolorists, I have improved my watercolor greatly from your teaching.

Leaf and evergreen done in wet and wet.



Leaf tree with hit and miss water, and a evergreen wet on dry with some edges defused.

Yes, you did. Those shapes are abstract. The two sides are different. You variegated colors. I am pleased with that. I see professional quality here.
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Johannes, could you please explain what the homework is. I cannot watch live demos because of my satellite internet connexion so, I miss any instruction given. Thanks.
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The Arches 140 CP, 100% cotton paper made a huge difference. I still need to keep my focus on controlling the wetness of the paint and the brush. I forgot to dry my brush a few times and my paint would dry up so I would wet my paint and then it would be too wet. etc, etc.

One thing I did notice!! I would have a soft edge while the paper was still wet, but as the paper dried... the pigment would go up to the end of the wettness and later form a hard edge....the color was lighter in color and value but none the less it was physically a hard edge that was not there when I was finished painting????????????

I had a great time doing my homework; time flew by. I was amazed how long it took me, but it was time well spent. It is great having assignments to practice on!!!!! Thank you.....Thank you!!!!!

I see a lost & found technique in the tree at the left at the top.
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The Arches 140 CP, 100% cotton paper made a huge difference. I still need to keep my focus on controlling the wetness of the paint and the brush. I forgot to dry my brush a few times and my paint would dry up so I would wet my paint and then it would be too wet. etc, etc.

One thing I did notice!! I would have a soft edge while the paper was still wet, but as the paper dried... the pigment would go up to the end of the wettness and later form a hard edge....the color was lighter in color and value but none the less it was physically a hard edge that was not there when I was finished painting????????????

I had a great time doing my homework; time flew by. I was amazed how long it took me, but it was time well spent. It is great having assignments to practice on!!!!! Thank you.....Thank you!!!!!

You have some neat dry brushing at the top tree. The letters are showing up with the technique.
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Thanks Johannes. I have a couple of questions, how do you paint clutter (sort of a multi color fill in), and how to paint a light color tree in front a darker evergreen.
Maybe if you put a watercolor course on or if you get some time at the end of this course you could show us watercolorist how to do this.

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