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Old 11-08-2010, 09:29 AM
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I bought a tube of oil paint from italian brand Ferrairo. when I opened it there is this strong "thinner" smell. I tested the paint on canvas. it looks ok. but this smell is too strong, is this normal??
never had something like this with other brands I use.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:40 AM
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Re: tube smell

Hi buraky, I never have heard or read about Ferrairo so far, but all paints I know do not have this "strong thinner smell". Max
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Re: tube smell

is it an alkyd (quick drying formula) paint? If so, that is why it smells strong.
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I bought a tube of oil paint from italian brand Ferrairo. when I opened it there is this strong "thinner" smell. I tested the paint on canvas. it looks ok. but this smell is too strong, is this normal??
never had something like this with other brands I use.
Hi Buraky.
Ferrario is the oldest italian brand (since 1919), 4 years before Maimeri.
They produce, today, 3 oil paint ranges: OilMaster (students), Vand Dyck (superfine), and "Ferrario 1919" (extrafine/premium grade).
Ferrario has had in the recent past, enormous problems. Then, 2/3 years ago, have resolved these issues, and have completely redrafted their palettes. New oil colors formulations are:
- Oil Master is students grade oil color, with very fast drying;
- Van Dyck is artists grade, with medium/regular drying;
- 1919 is artists/premium grade, with medium/regular drying.

Ferrario decided to use in their own oil paints, as a desiccant, an alkyd resin, with typical thinner smell, instead traditionals driers. Oil Master, indeed, has a very strong thinner smell. In Van Dyck range, it's less strong, and in "Ferrario 1919" range it's almost absent.
I tested these colors (all three ranges), and I had no problems.
Also, I found something similar in Norma Professional Titanium White (Schmincke).
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Thank you for this information, monet63 ! Highly informative!


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Dave, I just hope my English isnt too funny, I try help from dictionary and translator..
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:18 PM
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yes it says "oil master" series on tube and... now I understand. thanks monets63.
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:33 PM
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and another question is it ok I can use this in first layers with traditional oil-paints?
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Thanks also from me monet63!

It is funny, not to know Ferrairo but having some Van Dykes in use. But these have no strong smell (some earth green and naples yellow). I bought them some time ago, but cannot remember where (it was a local art supply store). They had good price for the value I remember well.

Yes, it is not always easy to express yourself in English if it is not your mother tongue (for me it is the same problem), but I did understood all you wrote .
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and another question is it ok I can use this in first layers with traditional oil-paints?
In my opinion, there are no contraindications. It's a common oil paint; but, the drying agent consisting in alkyd resin.
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Thanks also from me monet63!

It is funny, not to know Ferrairo but having some Van Dykes in use. But these have no strong smell (some earth green and naples yellow). I bought them some time ago, but cannot remember where (it was a local art supply store). They had good price for the value I remember well.

Yes, it is not always easy to express yourself in English if it is not your mother tongue (for me it is the same problem), but I did understood all you wrote .
Max, old Ferrario oil paints had a traditional formulation, without alkyd resin.
You can understand - in principle - that they are old-formula colors also looking at the logo. In total renewal policy, the new logo is different, and taking the old and historic logo. Old Master series always contained, instead, alkyd resin.
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Instead, in 1919 Series only, Ferrario has used 2 different logos, one front and one behind. On the front there are the first factory logo; on the back che new common logo. Look at the pics.
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Old 11-09-2010, 05:10 PM
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my first experience with this alkyd paint is not so good. its smell gave me a headache...had to put the tubes away..
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Instead, in 1919 Series only, Ferrario has used 2 different logos, one front and one behind. On the front there are the first factory logo; on the back che new common logo. Look at the pics.
Hi monet63
Is there any web site to get more info about ferrario 1919 Series.
(paint chemical compostion ,lightfastness etc)
Where can I order these paints ?
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Is there any web site to get more info about ferrario 1919 Series.
http://www.ferrariospa.com/lineaProdotto.php?idCat=543 (just Googled the name and olio).

The colour chart PDF has pigments listed as on the tubes, but only simulated paint colours not photos of swatches unfortunately.

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