WetCanvas
Home Member Services Content Areas Tools Info Center WC Partners Shop Help
Channels:
Search for:
in:

Welcome to the WetCanvas forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please visit our help center.

Go Back   WetCanvas > The Art Business Center > General Art Business > Legal Corner
User Name
Password
Register Mark Forums Read

Salute to our Partners
WC! Sponsors

Our Sponsors
Reply  
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   Report Bad Post  
Old 12-24-2002, 10:55 AM
Edcello's Avatar
Edcello Edcello is offline
New Member
Evanston, IL
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 5
 
Hails from United States
Using inspiration from books.

I have read many of the threads in this section before posting but couldn’t find one specifically to answer my question.

I’m a big reader and read a chapter from one of my favorite authors and thought “hey this would be a wonderful painting”. If you read a book and decide to draw or paint a scene from a chapter, is that a violation of copyright?

Thanks
Ed
Btw – I’m one of the new folks and absolutely love this website. It’s like attending an Artist conference with no end.
Reply With Quote
  #2   Report Bad Post  
Old 12-24-2002, 12:34 PM
amo's Avatar
amo amo is offline
Veteran Member
British Columbia, Canada
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 514
 
Hails from Canada
Excellent question! I'd really like to hear the answer to that one, myself. I would imagine it's probably in the same category as all the other stuff- if it's from a book that's older than 70 years, or a story that's in the public domain (say, fairy tales), it's fair game?
And I'm certain you could get into hot water if you were to do (and sell) an illustration for a big ticket item, like, say, Harry Potter.

And by the way- welcome to WC! Watch it- this place is highly addictive.

amo
Reply With Quote
  #3   Report Bad Post  
Old 12-26-2002, 06:21 AM
timelady's Avatar
timelady timelady is offline
A WC! Legend
She who rambles
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 11,076
 
Hails from United Kingdom
An interesting one... I think you're definitely alright with classics and such. Lots of artists have tackled themes like Shakespeare, Blake, Chaucer, etc. Lots of artiss also do sci-fi paintings inspired by books, where the subject might be a scene from the novel. Now, I'm not sure about it but I think this is okay. The issue is when a character or title is copyrighted or trademarked. For instance, Star Trek copyright and trademark is enforced strongly by Paramount. (or whoever is the owner now) Harry Potter characters are trademarked by Warner Bros. and possibly the publisher too. In general, if the book you read had also been made into a film, tv show or merchandising then someone has protected the trademark so it isn't safe to make a painting of it unless it's not that character exactly. An example of this could be the "A Series of Unfortunately Events" books which have illustrations nearly exactly like Harry Potter - but of course it's not. I thought about this a while and that's the answer I keeping coming up with - all the things that I'd imagine would get you into trouble have been licensed for other products, hence the trademark.

Tina.
Reply With Quote
  #4   Report Bad Post  
Old 12-26-2002, 10:32 AM
Edcello's Avatar
Edcello Edcello is offline
New Member
Evanston, IL
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 5
 
Hails from United States
It’s funny, I have been asking around and I get several different responses. None of them from Copyright Lawyers, unfortunately. But the main thing I am getting is as long as there is no movie or another image associated with the book then generally it’s ok. Because you are using your own imagination to create the image. Where as if you have the main character on the cover of the book and draw a screen using that image you could get into trouble. Obviously the more money a mega corporate deity has invested into a book or series they will be watching anything that even resembles their investment.

I could be completely wrong in this, since I am pulling from many sources and no matter how true I want it to be, it could very well be wrong. I would still like to hear any more responses to this question… I’m sure it has come up some time in some ones’ carrier.

Thanks all..
Ed
Reply With Quote
  #5   Report Bad Post  
Old 12-26-2002, 04:35 PM
studiospace studiospace is offline
New Member
Melbourne, Australia
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 47
 
Hails from Australia
My understanding, in short:

One of the fundamental tenents of copyright is that it protects only the form in which ideas and information are expressed (hey, here's a US authority even: Baker v Selden (1880) 101 US 99 - yes, everyone uses it). In other words, copyright does not protect ideas as such, only the form of expression.

So ... if you read a recently published book and proceed to create a painting, say, based on a chapter in that book, it would be pretty hard to say that's copyright infringement (unless you ripped off an illustration in the book).

I'll leave it at that. I'm in Australia and different countries have different IP regimes.

NB. this ain't legal advice

Cheers, Victor
__________________
StudioSpace
- taking art online -
www.studiospace.com.au

Last edited by studiospace : 12-26-2002 at 04:38 PM.
Reply With Quote

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:14 AM.


Copyright 1998-2013, F+W Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved.