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Old 08-17-1999, 02:57 AM
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new page in Virtual Gallery

hey guys! I'm in the gallery now, as of today. look under P for Becky Pena. I guess it's open season to critique what's there. Really, the comments from this crowd are entirely welcome.
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Old 08-24-1999, 03:05 PM
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OK, all you rats! No comment on my junk?
Heck, I'm going to sulk, but only for a sec.
I'm not sure who to thank at wetcanvas, but I'm very honored to be the Pick of the Week. How did that happen? Thank you, whoever is in charge!
Beck

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Old 08-25-1999, 12:55 AM
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Nobody's gonna call me a rat and get away with it!

I went to your place on the gallery and certainly think you should stop calling it "my junk!" The guitar player communicated especially to me. However, I've learned that it's much harder to give comments on several pieces of work. I originally thought it would be good, but Scott, in his ultimate wisdom, layed out this format for us to post one piece of work to get critiqued in a message thread. Why don't you pick one and post it here and I'll be glad to critique!

And while you're at it, you can critique my submission too (Rufus, Opinions wanted)

-Randy
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Old 08-25-1999, 02:47 AM
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Aw, heck. It's late and it'll take me an hour to figure out how to post an image here. maybe in the morning.
You like the guitar player? I love to watch musicians, their talent is mysterious to me, I love their hands, their almost subconcious
ability to interpret a song. I have other sketches of musicians, but none online, so I can't get them into the message board, right?
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Old 08-25-1999, 03:33 AM
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I too have visited your site, no junk there. Look forward to commenting on the image you decide to post. Glad for the shake up we need one occasionaly,
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Old 08-25-1999, 04:01 AM
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Beck, Hi, I just wanted to ask you about your painting subjects. From looking at your virtual Gallery exhibit, I noticed that you painted people as the main subjects of each image. Is that what you enjoy painting the most? I find that I prefer to paint faces and portraits and people above landscapes. Faces can be so expressive by changing slightly the smallest detail on a face. I love the challeng of that. What about you?
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Old 08-25-1999, 05:13 AM
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Hi Beck,
Yes you are right, you cannot post your other images unless they are online. But you could choose one of your works from the virtual gallery that are online and post it for critiques. To do this use UBB code.Using


Use no spaces and change (imagename.gif) to the file name of the image you choose.
Hope this works for you,
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Old 08-25-1999, 11:07 AM
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Thanks Rod for holding my hand here, it's so much easier when I can ctrl+C something.
Now to remember the image names!

Amanda, faces and forms have always appealed to me much more than landscapes, although recently I did 4 landscapes in acrylic that gave me a new appreciation for them. It takes as much attention to detail to bring light and shadow into a scene as it does to make a face have life.

Of the images I have online, I'm posting a nude here for ya'll's opinion, since it's the least finished of the bunch. Hope this works!
Beck

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Old 08-25-1999, 11:12 AM
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Trying again.... grrrrr!
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I'm curious why you posted "the least finished of the bunch" for critique.

I've been real short on time the last week or so, I meant to get back here right away. It does seem somewhat 'unfinished' due to the light values of the whole piece. There isn't any real contrast of light and shadow anywhere. I like the motion of the piece and the message it eminates. One problem I had was with the shadows down the right side of the body, from the breast to the crotch area. It's like an optical illusion. If you look at it wrong, the breast looks like a shoulder and the shadows running down make it look like her arm with her hand between her legs. It may just be me, but now I can't look at it without seeing that 'arm.' If that's a window behind her, then the darkest values would be the left side of the body next to the bed and you have the right breast with the darkest value, so that may be why it looks 'wrong.'

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I have been hesitant to contribute to this particular section of WetCanvas because I am not sure if I should critique if I don't know how to recommend a way to "fix" what I find "wrong". I agree that the light source of the nude is not very clear, but there is also something amiss with the proportions that I can't put my finger on, it may be in the angle of the hips. All in all it is a very moody piece, it makes me feel lazy like a hot summer afternoon.

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Old 08-30-1999, 02:30 PM
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Hi Randy,
The reason for the shadow not jiving with the window behind her is because there is also light coming from the window at the head of the bed, and also reflecting in the mirror she is reflected in. Now, how to convey all that in the sketch? As for the hand in the crotch, I can't see it. But how did you know that's how I sleep sometimes?


Hi Diana,
There is a bit of a twist in the torso because the model(me) had to stretch just "so" to look that thin, then twist the other way to sketch. As for the mood, I see it as more lonely. I'm very glad to hear that it evokes a mood. Thank you both for replying.

Interesting forum; how to critique tactfully, how to accept observations, how to explain without defending. I like it.
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Old 08-30-1999, 05:16 PM
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Hi Beck,
I also saw the arm when I first looked, must be us mere males. Or the fact that the shadow from the breast to the crutch is continuous.You realise that posting the least finished work, we all expect to see the finished sketch, I'm sure Scott will replace the original image with your finished one if you email it to him,
Rod.
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Old 08-30-1999, 10:07 PM
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Diana,

We have the critique center for the "how to fix it" type critiques. I really believe what is useful here is getting MANY opinions from viewers of our art - not necessarily skilled professionals who can tell us exactly what's wrong and how to fix it, but educated viewers who can see "this is wrong," "this strikes me as odd," "the head's too big," etc.

I really wish more people would give their opinions here, even if it's "I liked it" or "it gave me a happy message," or "the perspective is all wrong." It would be like being able to hang our art at an artist-frequented cafe and sit at the table next to it and hear what people are saying. It's great!

Beck,

I thought there might have been a light from over the head, but the mirror light source was not obvious. It just looks "wrong" but I don't know if that's bad or not.

So it's a nude self-portait. I haven't been brave enough to let anyone but my wife see my nude self-portrait. I guess partly it's the notion that female nudes are more 'acceptable' - no, on second thought, I think I'm just chicken

I think we learn as much from critiquing other's work as we do getting ours critiqued. I'm glad we have this forum, but wish more would get involved. Hopefully it will grow!

-Randy


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Old 08-31-1999, 01:30 AM
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Quick Update! I posted Becky's revised September Nude sketch - go take a look at her virtual gallery:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/Gallery/P/Becky_Pena

Also, regarding the posting of multiple images per thread - by sticking with only posting 1 per thread, it makes the messages load much quicker in everyone's browser - plus, it makes it easier to read all about one particular piece, rather than having to "wade" through all sorts of other things ... but this is YOUR forum. No police force here... :-)

Cheers.
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