WetCanvas
Home Member Services Content Areas Tools Info Center WC Partners Shop Help
Channels:
Search for:
in:

Welcome to the WetCanvas forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please visit our help center.

Go Back   WetCanvas > Explore Subjects > Art Journals
User Name
Password
Register Mark Forums Read

Salute to our Partners
WC! Sponsors

Our Sponsors
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 01:35 AM
virgo68's Avatar
virgo68 virgo68 is offline
Lord of the Arts
South Australia
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,373
 
Hails from Australia
Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

OK here goes! I have a small A5 visual art diary that is 110gsm cartridge paper. I am keen to get better with pen and ink style drawings, I usually stick to black but I have bought loads of colour pens over the last few months that I am keen to try out plus anything else that might work with ink...... Stabilo pens fine 0.4
__________________
Jackie
Reply With Quote
  #2   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 01:40 AM
virgo68's Avatar
virgo68 virgo68 is offline
Lord of the Arts
South Australia
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,373
 
Hails from Australia
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

After looking up the Stabilo website I saw some experiements with colour pencil and the pens, so this is what I tried
__________________
Jackie
Reply With Quote
  #3   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 01:44 AM
virgo68's Avatar
virgo68 virgo68 is offline
Lord of the Arts
South Australia
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,373
 
Hails from Australia
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

Next I started a drawing that I thought I would stipple the whole lot, but got fed up and played with cp's and Pitt Artist Pens in the Terra range. Don't know if I will bother to finish it off, but I guess that is the beauty of the sketchbook - maybe I will, maybe I won't!!
__________________
Jackie
Reply With Quote
  #4   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 07:37 AM
mhimeswc's Avatar
mhimeswc mhimeswc is offline
A Local Legend
New Jersey
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,894
 
Hails from United States
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

What a lovely lily to start out with, and some interesting and colorful exercises, and I love the little girl with her bear friends. I would never have the patience to stipple something like that, but your stippling looks really good. and it even looks good unfinished. Great sketches!
Reply With Quote
  #5   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 08:44 AM
jacquip's Avatar
jacquip jacquip is offline
Lord of the Arts
Melbourne
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,546
 
Hails from Australia
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

Virgo so glad you took the plunge to start your sketchbook thread. These are awesome. Love the coloured pen flower, so beautiful. Really interested in the cp and pen combo's, must give that a try myself. Love the girl and toys. Stippling is time consuming but very therapeutic I think, you get mesmerised by it, both doing and looking at it. Great colour on the girls dress, is that cp?
__________________
Jacqui
critiques and comments always welcome. I appreciate the effort of sharing knowledge.
http://jacquipetersen.com/
Reply With Quote
  #6   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 10:23 AM
Jakesgram's Avatar
Jakesgram Jakesgram is offline
Lord of the Arts
Escondido, CA
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,105
 
Hails from United States
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

Hi Jackie! What a great start you have here.

LOVE the lily. It's my favorite, but everything else is really great too. I love that you are working out techniques in this book and making notes. The little girl with her friends is a great picture, even in its unfinished state. I agree, the nice thing is you can finish or not finish, or even come back years later and finish if you want. That's the beauty of the sketchbook.

Nice work!
__________________
Jean (aka Jakesgram)

"People's dreams are made out of what they do all day. The same way a dog that runs after rabbits will dream of rabbits. It's what you do that makes your soul, not the other way around."

Reply With Quote
  #7   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 03:25 PM
robertsloan2's Avatar
robertsloan2 robertsloan2 is offline
A WC! Legend
San Francisco, CA
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 33,558
 
Hails from United States
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

Gorgeous lily. That's a spectacular opener to this journal. Cool exploration page, love all those rich colors. Good sketch of the little girl and bears, I like how you left the one bear just stippled, it fades off in an interesting way, like a child's imagination. I'd keep that one as is and keep going.
__________________

Robert A. Sloan, proud member of the Oil Pastel Society
Site owner, artist and writer of http://www.explore-oil-pastels-with-robert-sloan.com
blogs: Rob's Art Lessons and Rob's Daily Painting
Reply With Quote
  #8   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 05:52 PM
DrDebby's Avatar
DrDebby DrDebby is offline
WC! Guide
Nowheresville, Idunno
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 13,036
 
Hails from United States
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

Lovely lily. Great experiments with ink and colored pencil. The drawing of the girl and her friends is wonderful. And, yes, that is the beauty of working in a sketchbook. You can try things, leave things if it isn't working how you want it. Or come back later if it interests you again. Splendid start.
__________________
Debby
Guide - Fiber Art Forum My Website_My Etsy
Reply With Quote
  #9   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 06:17 PM
virgo68's Avatar
virgo68 virgo68 is offline
Lord of the Arts
South Australia
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,373
 
Hails from Australia
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

Oh! thanks everyone for your kind support, it is nice that you all take the time out

Jacqui - I think of stippling as a kind of therapy..... ! The dress is layered cp with white over top as a "burnish". I liked the pencil over the ink too, the ink gave the paper a different feel and the pencils looked much deeper than on their own.

Robert - you've seen my finished works before, it is going to take some willpower to learn to pull back and remember to experiment. At times I need to "leave things alone" lol!

Michelle, Jean and Debby, thankyou - I did have fun.

I have been trying to look through all your journals and sketchbooks and you are all so prolific, it is lovely to share your ideas about techniques and subjects. Thanks for the welcome into the sketchbook/journal world
__________________
Jackie
Reply With Quote
  #10   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 07:34 PM
virgo68's Avatar
virgo68 virgo68 is offline
Lord of the Arts
South Australia
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,373
 
Hails from Australia
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

I got so enthused yesterday that I filled a few pages (at A5 it is easy to do!) I borrowed a book from the library with lovely photos of angels and cupids in and decided it was a lovely subject to have a go at with pen and ink with a view to making some cards one day. I started out in pigma micron pen and then added some colour with the Stabilos



I was lazy and just tried to "smudge" the colour with a damp cotton bud - big mistake as it disturbed the black also. Now being a Virgo I should have done the experiments first but I didn't because as an "artist" I get too impatient and just jump in. I learned a lesson today! Here are the experiments AFTER I ruined the sketch


While I had the bug for experimenting I got out my Pitt artist pens and did some more....


So back to the drawing board (or sketchbook!) and use the pens but then leave them alone, or maybe wash the colour with watercolours first and then enhance with the pen......... lesson learned for Monday
__________________
Jackie

Last edited by virgo68 : 06-28-2010 at 08:27 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 08:24 PM
robertsloan2's Avatar
robertsloan2 robertsloan2 is offline
A WC! Legend
San Francisco, CA
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 33,558
 
Hails from United States
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

The Cupid with dog looks great. I found out that Pigma Microns will smudge with an eraser too unless you really let them dry solid. Sometimes they can look dry but they've just soaked in. Do a test swatch and time how long it takes in your humidity for Pigma Micron ink to dry completely. If it's dried, then there's no smudging from water or from smearing with a kneaded eraser.

I'm impatient too though and sometimes wind up smudging it by erasing or by washing. That's interesting about your Pitt pens though, I haven't seen those smudge with water at all.
__________________

Robert A. Sloan, proud member of the Oil Pastel Society
Site owner, artist and writer of http://www.explore-oil-pastels-with-robert-sloan.com
blogs: Rob's Art Lessons and Rob's Daily Painting
Reply With Quote
  #12   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 10:31 PM
DrDebby's Avatar
DrDebby DrDebby is offline
WC! Guide
Nowheresville, Idunno
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 13,036
 
Hails from United States
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

The reason the pen Micron was smudging was because it wasn't dry yet. If there is any sizing in the paper, it will cause the ink to sit on top of the paper and not get to the fiber right away. Once the pen is dry it doesn't go anywhere.

Love seeing your experiments, even if they were after the fact. I don't think the smudging detracts from the cupid and dog. Great sketch.
__________________
Debby
Guide - Fiber Art Forum My Website_My Etsy
Reply With Quote
  #13   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-28-2010, 10:32 PM
JTMB's Avatar
JTMB JTMB is offline
A Local Legend
Pacific Northwest
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 6,336
 
Hails from United States
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

Very nice, and nice concept for a sketchbook! I really like this style of work.
__________________
John
C&C always welcome.

Website - www.johntubbsart.com. Art blog - www.jtubbs.com.
Reply With Quote
  #14   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-29-2010, 03:10 AM
vhere's Avatar
vhere vhere is online now
A WC! Legend
england
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,926
 
Hails from England
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

These are really great!

I like the way you are using the book to experiment and see what happens - I make notes like that too often.

I found that Inktense were like that - they do smudge a little. even though they say they don't - maybe I was being too hasty too. I'll have to go back to some old doodling and see if it still activates with water.

The lily is lovely and the cp experiments and the cupid and .....
__________________


MY WEBSITE:http://vivienblackburn.com MY BLOG:http://vivienb.blogspot.com/ ETSY for original paintings http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=6150568
Reply With Quote
  #15   Report Bad Post  
Old 06-29-2010, 03:51 PM
suruchi's Avatar
suruchi suruchi is offline
Senior Member
Fort Worth, Texas
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 388
 
Hails from United States
Re: Pen and Ink (plus) exploration sketchbook

Hi Jackie,
Wonderful sketches! I love the little girl and the bears. I agree with Robert to leave it and move on. The cupid is also really great and I didn't notice any smudging at all so it must not have interferred from my perspective. Keep em coming!
Dena
Reply With Quote

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:15 AM.


© 2014 F+W All rights reserved.