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Old 11-30-2009, 03:39 PM
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Here are the charts for the Caran d'Ache Supracolor II Watercolor Pencils. They have 120 in this line, which is an artist line, and each pencil has lightfast ratings on it. They are made in Switzerland, and are very soft and easy to work with.

The charts show the pencil dry (on the left of each color) then wet (in the middle) then dragged (once) across the paper on the right side of the color.

The lightfast ratings from the pencil are given in stars, and the pencil number.

At the end of chart 3, I put 12 Caran d'Ache Classicolor Metallic water-soluble pencils.







And here are the pencils again. They come in a sturdy tin- and what is nice, is that the first two layers have a tin bottom....some companies just put the pencils in plastic, which can easily dump out the pencils.





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Again, like the other materials threads you have recently done, the task of putting this together is huge. AND gives us a huge resource, accessible forever!

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Re: Caran d'Ache Watercolor Pencil Charts - Library

And usefull now becouse i can see difference in two colours what i have i mean seems both pencils have correct hue even my older pencil have different hue with number 110 more blue i think.
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thanks Jen and JPQ!
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Re: Caran d'Ache Watercolor Pencil Charts - Library

This less blue hue is more suitable for mixing i mean when you what BRIGHT violet Colours something what i dont found in premade pencil in this product series and closest thing is i think blue violet in faber-castell (but this is only * star i think when we talk watersoluble pencils). Saddly Green range is little limited but nice is nice mix brands but sometimes wants only one pencil box...
ps. hues what i talk are 110 and 120.
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Re: Caran d'Ache Watercolor Pencil Charts - Library

I made these sample sheets for my own edification but it occurred to me that some others might like to see how these pencils look on the new Stonehenge "Kraft" colored paper = nice and bright.

The top page are the colors in the small 18-color set. The second is a test of some "drabs" and some brights on the Kraft.

I learned a lot just doing these samplers!

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One more sampler! These are wet mixes on Strathmore Aquarius II wc paper.

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Wow, Jan, thank you for showing the samples on Stonehenge kraft paper. You know, I used Stonehenge once with watercolor pencil and wash and the paper sort of curled and warped a little in the end. Did this kraft paper do that?

I didn't expect watercolor pencil wash will show up so well on kraft paper. What do you think is the property that let it light up? Especially the whites. They really show. Jan, is only Supracolor the only one that could show up like this on this paper? Do you have other watercolor pencils that washes and still show up? Please do show in another thread perhaps call it Stonehenge paper test. I'd love to see it.

Beautiful combo on the mix of color. They are all so dreamy.

What's all those holes on the left hand side? Did they come like that or you punched them for filing on your own?
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Jan- what gorgeous colors on the kraft paper- wow! The mixes are just exquisite! Any chance of labeling what the mixes were? I have not seen the new stonehenge kraft paper.....thanks so much for sharing!
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Wow, Jan, thank you for showing the samples on Stonehenge kraft paper. You know, I used Stonehenge once with watercolor pencil and wash and the paper sort of curled and warped a little in the end. Did this kraft paper do that?
Yes, there is definitely a little bit of buckling. But not so that it's a 'deal breaker'. I really like how gouache and these Supracolor wc pencils look on this Stonehenge 'Kraft' colored paper. So I am more than willing to deal with some buckling. But I am strictly a sketchbook person! If you are going to do something for framing you might want to stretch it, like you do with all watercolor paper.

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I didn't expect watercolor pencil wash will show up so well on kraft paper. What do you think is the property that let it light up?
I suspect it's because the pigments in the Supracolors are so concentrated. They look opaque. For the one-color sample boxes I put the pigment down really heavy in the top left corner and then kind of feathered it out towards the bottom of the rectangle. But they still washed very thick and bold, for the most part.

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Especially the whites. They really show.
They look great. As do the light sky blues. Really nice!

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Jan, is only Supracolor the only one that could show up like this on this paper? Do you have other watercolor pencils that washes and still show up? Please do show in another thread perhaps call it Stonehenge paper test. I'd love to see it.
I have the Caran d'Ache Museum leads, which are the same as the Supracolors, except without the wood. No, I don't have any other wc pencils that I'd like to test on this paper. Sorry!

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Beautiful combo on the mix of color. They are all so dreamy.
I really had a good time with those! I have practically no experience whatsoever with wc pencils so I learned a lot messing with the mixes. They are so pigmented! It's really fun!

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What's all those holes on the left hand side? Did they come like that or you punched them for filing on your own?
Ha! No, they don't come like that. The paper comes in 22" X 30" sheets. I tear them down to size so I can punch them and use them in my sketchbooks. I use the Rollabind/Circa system and those holes are the punch holes so I can bind the pages into the sketchbook. I took these sample sheets out of the sketchbook so I could scan them. So that's why you can see the holes.

Glad you enjoyed seeing these colors on this paper. I was considerably "wowed" by how opaque the wc pencil pigments were. (I was expecting them to be more transparent and watery.) And furthermore, when you 'color' them onto the Strathmore and the Stonehenge papers (which are a little toothy, the Strathmore more so than the Stonehenge), you get a very nice granulated look, which survives the wetting and blending sometimes. I like that depth.

I am considering carrying a small bundle of these pencils in my sketch kit, instead of the mini-watercolor palette box. I have one of the pans in that box filled with white gouache, on the theory that I could mix up light opaque colors for highlights on this brown paper, but the gouache kept drying up so quickly and into such a rock-hard blob that it wasn't usable. (The watercolor tube pigments in the box are easily reconstituted with some water. The gouache? No.)

The white Supracolor pencils are MUCH more convenient than that. Okay, yes, they are not nearly as opaque as the gouache, but still much easier to deal with.

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Jan- what gorgeous colors on the kraft paper- wow! The mixes are just exquisite! Any chance of labeling what the mixes were? I have not seen the new stonehenge kraft paper.....thanks so much for sharing!
Thanks for the kind words, but the pencils and the water did all the work! Alas. Naturally I didn't record any of the ingredients in the mixes. I am sorry.

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Jan, thanks for all the info again.

Gouache do harden quickly and cannot be reconstituted. When I travel, I travel with a tube of white gouache.

I'm wondering if watercolor shows on kraft paper. I've only used gouache so far. I have to give mine a try.
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I'm wondering if watercolor shows on kraft paper. I've only used gouache so far. I have to give mine a try.
Obviously, the Stonehenge "Kraft" colored printmaking paper is a totally different animal from the standard ole kraft paper that comes in 100 foot rolls. I am willing to bet that the two very different papers will "take" paint in totally different ways.

On a related note, here is the work of one of my local Urban Sketchers, Christian Tribastone. He does DELIGHTFUL work on that plain ole kraft paper. I love his stuff.

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Jan, yes. the are quite different. I wouldn't even try to use the regular kraft paper since it isn't acid free or archival (in general). Stonehenge kraft colored paper is standard Stonehenge paper.

Stonehenge is quite nice to work with. While it takes some water, I was told to not use too much. Essentially, use dry brush techniques. If it gets too wet it might buckles a bit.

In any case, I like seeing the samples on color. I've been working with black so much lately that I might have to do samples with black to balance all I have on white.

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Jan, I love that guys work too, and that first one looks like a paper grocery bag!

Doug, cool idea showing what they will look like on black!
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