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Not really sure if I like the affect of the pinstripes I painted for highlighting. It's a new idea to me, a new technique of highlighting that came to me while I was working too-late and was too tired to say no to the novelty. It's clunky in places. It may/may not be kept.

At the moment I'm thinking to continue on as if nothing has happened and see how it looks later in the picture.

Comments or chastisement appreciated.
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Here's a current shot of the icon. I've been laid up with an eye injury the past week and managed only one hour of work on the painting in that time. Just wanted to keep any interested persons updated as to progress.
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The title of the thread drew me in. I love your work!

I use icons in my art. I don't have representational/drawing ability, but have used collaged icon images in my mixed media, and icons are always part of my installations, which are primarily altars.

Your iconography is beautiful.
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The title of the thread drew me in. I love your work!

I use icons in my art. I don't have representational/drawing ability, but have used collaged icon images in my mixed media, and icons are always part of my installations, which are primarily altars.

Your iconography is beautiful.

Thanks for your kind words and for stopping by! I'm in Colorado, too.
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Managed to get a good dose of sawdust in my eye a couple weeks ago, and developed an inner eye infection which had me out of action for 8 or nine days.

Sights regained and for the past 3 or 4 days, I've been painting 4 "icon-lites", getting back into the rhythym of painting before resuming the icon I was depicting work upon in this thread.



Above is one of them...very simple, as you can see. Tried to choose colors that might appeal to a young child.

If you've followed this thread, you'll recall Valen the Vandal. (Wanted Poster below



You'll also recall my earnest warnings regarding letting dogs/cats get near egg tempera paintings. (Any ideas where this is heading? LOL!)

The icon I've been working on in this thread was resting on a chair, by the door to my studio this morning. I'm happily painting away, and gradually become aware of the sounds of "lick-lick-lick-lick"....I look up in disbelief: Valen's half in the doorway, helping herself to the icon!

3 cheers for me, I almost-not-quite kept my vocabulary in check, herded the miscreant outside and returned, shell-shocked, to survey the damage:

Note lower right portion of icon---dog damage:



Closeup--down to the gesso in places:



Not wanting to go thru the work of repair/repainting---never an easy task, one reason, I suppose, why restorers make the big-bucks--I decided to convert the icon to a bust figure.

Out to the workshop and the trusty tablesaw. Never have sawed thru gesso and paint before, so this ought to be a learning experience.

It worked perfectly! Pics of the newly-modified icon below:





So, let this be a lesson to me, and a caution to you: dogs/cats are not to be trusted with egg tempera, however dry, within their reach.

Also, a good blade on a tablesaw availeth much, and can indeed cut thru gesso and paint without disturbing the structural integrity of the painting.

Hope this never happens to you, but know that it is possible to make lemonade from lemons.

The piece I cut off has been cut into two pieces and I'll be using them to experiment sealing with olipha. ("Olipha" is a linseed/stand oil mix traditionally used as a sealer on icons. Reputed to be a bit tricky as it can pull up the paint it's applied over.)


All's well that ends well, and to be truthful, I kinda like the new version better...I'm thinking of consulting with Valen more frequently about design!
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I loved reading through this thread, very informative. Lovely work too.

(My cats try to "help" me out too hehehe)
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My cat helped me paint a dresser I used for an installation.

Celadonite, what part of Colorado?

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I loved reading through this thread, very informative. Lovely work too.

(My cats try to "help" me out too hehehe)

Thanks for stopping by and reading, Raze. What medium(s) do you work in?

I've had cats "help" me, too....one in particular had a preference for licking lazurite!!
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My cat helped me paint a dresser I used for an installation.

Celadonite, what part of Colorado?

LOL! Cartoon image of a cat in painter's overalls and cap comes to mind!

Sent you a personal message.
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Only the inscriptions on the bars of the Cross remain to be done...

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Hello celadonite....I'm Eastern Orthodox and I'm new here to this forum, so I was delighted to stumble on your thread. God bless you!

Very interesting to see all this...I am blessed to know several iconographers in the Church. And now you too!

(ps --- Panagia doesn't mind doggies and kitties! They are her special friends.)

PS: found the edit button! : I may have some old copies of Russky Palomnik ---I remember one of them had a wonderful article on iconography of Russia, (Rublev, etc)....I will look around --- they are in Russian.

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Hello celadonite....I'm Eastern Orthodox and I'm new here to this forum, so I was delighted to stumble on your thread. God bless you!

Very interesting to see all this...I am blessed to know several iconographers in the Church. And now you too!

(ps --- Panagia doesn't mind doggies and kitties! They are her special friends.)

PS: found the edit button! : I may have some old copies of Russky Palomnik ---I remember one of them had a wonderful article on iconography of Russia, (Rublev, etc)....I will look around --- they are in Russian.

Thanks for visiting the thread, and hope you'll visit and contribute to it as much and as often as you like!
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Been working off and on for a couple days on this modified view of the Virgin of Kazan. Leaf has been applied, an underpainting of Bohemian Green on Mary's outer garment. Over this has gone a mix of hematite/napthol red.

Inner garment is indigo, with shungite (a blue-black) over it.

Border of icon is napthol red.

Roshkrish for skin is Luberon Burnt Umber (Natural Pigments).

Since the outer garment of Mary occupies so much of the field of the icon, I intend to understate it, not develop much in the way of highlights, using only a simple decorative pattern on the fringe of her maphorian and such lines as are necessary to indicate folds, etc.

Christ's garments will be gold outer, white inner, and I intend to develop and highlight them distinctly, to balance the larger field of Mary's face and garments.

I'm planning to cut a panel, perhaps for the next icon, where Christ's halo will extend out from the rectangle of the board on the right side, much as Panagia's halo extends beyond the board in the icon just finished. Have drawn a pattern for this and am looking forward to trying it!
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Hello caladonite! Great to see your latest work.


I am not trying to hijack your topic, or presume, but I want to post a photo of the original "Mother of Kazan" so your other readers will know....maybe they would like a little history and to see the original to compare...

Original icon "Our Lady of Kazan" of St. Petersburg, Russia:

http://orthodoxwiki.org/images/d/d4/...y_of_Kazan.jpg

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Our_Lady_of_Kazan
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Hello caladonite! Great to see your latest work.


I am not trying to hijack your topic, or presume, but I want to post a photo of the original "Mother of Kazan" so your other readers will know....maybe they would like a little history and to see the original to compare...

Original icon "Our Lady of Kazan" of St. Petersburg, Russia:

http://orthodoxwiki.org/images/d/d4/...y_of_Kazan.jpg

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Our_Lady_of_Kazan

You're not hijacking, and glad you thought to do this! I totally spaced it...will have to take some pics of other Virgin of Kazan icons I've painted!
Thanks!

NOTE to Readers: the link http://orthodoxwiki.org/images/d/d4/...y_of_Kazan.jpg brings up a page at orthodoxwiki.org which says:
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As a protective measure, and to respect the images on this site which are protected by special copyright agreements, direct links to images on OrthodoxWiki from another site have been disabled.
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