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04-24-2009, 12:53 PM
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Doing your own Paint/Materials
I started this thread here some time ago: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=558049
Im still writing my essay, and the result of this poll will be attached to it. I would really appreciate if all of you could vote for this poll. The more people voting, the better. This is important for me, since it will give me a clear idea on whats the general opinion of contemporary painters.
Thank you very much indeed!
ALEX
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04-24-2009, 09:13 PM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
I would definitely like to mull some of my own paints, if nothing else, to learn more about my materials. Having absolute control over what goes into my paint would be nice too, since I suppose that even the most expensive brands cut some corners here and there, not to mention other concerns that they need to have, like toxicity and shelf life.
However, making your own materials is time-consuming, and I can't allow it to cut into my painting time, which is already scarce. I do have enough trust in readymade paint that I'll continue using it until my situation changes, though. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to paint at all.
I voted for the fourth option, btw.
I don't think making your own paint is cheaper than buying it readymade. Maybe the materials are in fact cheaper, but when you factor in your time and effort, it goes way up. I value my time very much.
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04-24-2009, 10:53 PM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
I have made my own in years past simply because I ran out of some tube colors. I wouldn't mull my own paint unless I needed a very specific characteristic, in which case by all means I would make my own.
For every day use, a high quality commercial paint is sufficient, in my opinion. And the commercial paints are certainly more consistent.
I chose the third option.
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04-25-2009, 02:57 PM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
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I wouldn't mull my own paint unless I needed a very specific characteristic, in which case by all means I would make my own.
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Indeed - Alex, you haven't included the option which I suspect is true of quite a few people who do some hand-mulling (perhaps, dare I suggest, the majority who do?) - which is that, as Peter says, we use commercial paint where it suits our needs, and hand-mull where we want to make colours not readily commercially available (for example, I can easily get lead tin yellow pigment, but not made up paint), or where we want to make paints with specialised properties - mulled in different oils, or with additions - putty mediums, for example.
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04-25-2009, 06:18 PM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
Dcorc, you are absolutly right. I could have added this option. Since I think it´s impossible to correct the poll, I suggest that the painters who mull SOME colors AND uses comercial colors as well should vote for option #03, and if possible, write down a note here...
Anyway, the poll would have too many options and variables if I would include a vast array of circunstances and procedures. I was trying to get just a general feeling of what most painters think about this issue.
But thanks for the helpful observation!
ALEX
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04-27-2009, 12:07 PM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
Thanks for everyone who voted.
I still need more votes to include this poll on my article, so, please vote, you just have to click in one of the options and its done!
Thanks everyone!
ALEX
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04-27-2009, 12:49 PM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
Hi Alex:
I voted for the last 2 options, but as dcorc suggested, I actually devote hand-mulling to colors not commercially available, OR for a paint property that I don't get from commercial sources. For instance, there is a lovely blue-green earth from cypress, an english raw sienna that is more brown than yellow, etc. And hand-mulling lead carbonate makes for really ropey white, unlike anything commercially available (that I know of).
Hope this helps.
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04-28-2009, 07:55 AM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
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Originally Posted by Peter A Van Tassell
I wouldn't mull my own paint unless I needed a very specific characteristic, in which case by all means I would make my own.
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I agree with this, and with Dave. I wish this option had been on the list. I only make my own ultramarine deep from time to time, since that is the commercially tubed color I am the least satisfied with.
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04-28-2009, 10:58 AM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
Robert and Jamie, thanks a lot for the contribution.
I need more Votes, if you´re reading this, please vote!
This is important for my article.
Thanks!!
ALEX
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04-29-2009, 01:00 PM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
I have only a few times mulled my own, perhaps more out of curiosity or to touch upon the history, the "older" methods.
Jamie helped me see how I could make ultramarine blue a bit richer by doing so...and from time to time I've messed with that. I just wish I had a bit more time and money to invest...but for the most part, its taken me a good number of years to arrive at the pigments I use for what I do, and I'm not unhappy with the results to the point of feeling any major inadequacies.
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04-30-2009, 03:41 PM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
When I mull my own paint, I can control the quality and quantity of ingredients which are used. I trust George at Natural Pigments for the quality of oils and other ingredients that I use. His pale grinding oil is quite nice as well as his heat bodied oils (stand oils), walnut oils etc. His variety of pigments from 3 lead tin yellows, dutch stack process lead white, lead tin orange, lapis lazuli, malachite, and many many unusual earth pigments which I greatly enjoy making.
I buy Daniel Smith large size empty tubes and grind many varieties of earth colors which I enjoy making to my own taste-degree of oil use, sheen and other working qualities. Making your own paint can assure you that you have exactly the working properties that you desire.
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04-30-2009, 03:47 PM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
I only make a little bit of my paint myself. Just out of curiosity and tos add some special effects like glow in the dark.
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05-02-2009, 07:05 AM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
Larry, Kazucks and Oneilltje: Thanks very much for the input!
Need more votes on this poll! If you´re reading this, please vote!
Thank you all!
ALEX
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05-05-2009, 12:10 AM
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Re: Doing your own Paint/Materials
I would like to grind my own just to get a black pigment that is reflective. I have no idea where to start-- do I just hammer a rock into smithereens and mull it with my litho levigator?? Any assistance appreciated.
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