last silly question.....

[Dan-007]

ok i have a silly question, i used 1 part damar, 1 part stand oil and 5 parts turps for my underpainting it dried fast. i now know why thanks to you guys.

my silly question is the underpainting dried with a bit of a gloss or shininess i have never experianced shininess in my underpainting, at the end of a finished painting i often but some coats of damar.....can i paint my second layer over the glossy paint?

sorry for the question...

[Novenus]

But of course!!!

[Alex Sunder]

Hey Dan, hey Novenus!

Yes you can Dan, but just pay attention to something that CAN happen, it happened to me once... anyway, sometimes we tend to add TOO much medium in just a few areas of the painting, then, in your case (using damar and stand), you will have areas with LOTS of glossiness and others really opaque.

The problem is if you glaze the painting with a new layer of glaze, theres some chance that this new layer became affected by the underpainting containing the different glossy areas. In the right angle trough the reflecting light you will be able to see that the new layer now is affected by the difference of "texture" of the previous layer.

So, keep in mind to ALWAYS add the same amount of medium to each brushstrokes. The trick is to keep your layer evenly, or, with the same glossines all over. Opaque, medium or glossy... it doesnt matter wich one, but making everything equal in the whole painting.

Also, when working with the kind of medium you´re using now, it´s common to have adhesion problems. Sometimes you build up a great deal of layers, and suddenly, the paint beads up... you can add one or two drops of damar varnish to your medium to get rid of this problem... making the medium fatter than before, using damar will provide the grab that you need.

Hope that helps.

[Dan-007]

Originally Posted by Alex Sunder

Hey Dan, hey Novenus!

Yes you can Dan, but just pay attention to something that CAN happen, it happened to me once... anyway, sometimes we tend to add TOO much medium in just a few areas of the painting, then, in your case (using damar and stand), you will have areas with LOTS of glossiness and others really opaque.

The problem is if you glaze the painting with a new layer of glaze, theres some chance that this new layer became affected by the underpainting containing the different glossy areas. In the right angle trough the reflecting light you will be able to see that the new layer now is affected by the difference of "texture" of the previous layer.

So, keep in mind to ALWAYS add the same amount of medium to each brushstrokes. The trick is to keep your layer evenly, or, with the same glossines all over. Opaque, medium or glossy... it doesnt matter wich one, but making everything equal in the whole painting.

Also, when working with the kind of medium you´re using now, it´s common to have adhesion problems. Sometimes you build up a great deal of layers, and suddenly, the paint beads up... you can add one or two drops of damar varnish to your medium to get rid of this problem... making the medium fatter than before, using damar will provide the grab that you need.

Hope that helps.

but can i solve that problem by varnishing the entire painting at the end?

[dcorc]

The issue is that you are being over-enthusiastic in your use of medium generally.

In future paintings, use less.

[Alex Sunder]

Dcorc is right.

For this painting, you can varnish in the end and get rid of the problem.

But on your next paintings, try to use the minimum of 20% of medium to your paint pile, thats what everybody´s usually recommend.

Too much medium is no good. And glazing is about richness in pigment, NOT medium...

Im experimenting to paint with NO MEDIUM at all, and is working great for me...