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Old 01-19-2009, 10:35 PM
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Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

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Title: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral
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This piece is pretty close to being finished but I'm not very happy with it. I still need to finish off the clown in the back as well as the left fin of the one in the front. I've spent alot of time on it and I'm pretty much happy with the clownfishes but overall something just doesn't seem right for me.

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I'm pretty much just open to comments from the forum. I've spent so much time with it that i've painted myself into indecisiveness. I've halted on this piece and started on a new one. Anyways, what can I do to improve it? Is it too flat? Are the colors boring? Is there too much going on with the coral tenticles?
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:40 PM
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

Can you tell us what your goal with this piece is?

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Old 01-19-2009, 10:58 PM
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

I was hit with the blues not working in this. What do you think?

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Old 01-19-2009, 11:07 PM
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

I think my main goal is what to do with the coral. I'm just not happy with it. I think there is too much detail, the colors are bad and it takes away from the main clownfish, which I am really happy with. I guess I'm looking for suggestions on how to keep the coral and give it a cohesive feeling. I had considered trying to blur the coral as if it was a macro photo. I've also considered chopping it down so that there is much less coral and more blue background. I think I may change the blue color to be lighter and more greenish blue.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:17 PM
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

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.....I've also considered chopping it down so that there is much less coral and more blue background. I think I may change the blue color to be lighter and more greenish blue.

I just had to go look at pictures of the coral, and if you look at this one it might seem that your idea is on the right track. You probably have a different looking reference, and maybe there are different species of this coral, but in this reference the coral has a translucent look that seems pretty neat.

My only nitpick, actually, is that the fish in the back is looking like a football wedged in the coral. I don't know that it's that far from the picture plane to have paled so dramatically.

I think this picture probably makes quite an impact in person. The abstract patterns of your coral play well against the solidity of the fish, I think.
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:11 AM
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

I really like this painting and the reference photo of the coral. I would try to make the tips brighter and the blue more visible to achieve that translucent, glowing effect. The clown in front is very good but the edges need to be blurred to prevent a cut out\pasted on look. This piece has great potential. I like it a lot.

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Old 01-20-2009, 06:13 AM
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

Before commenting, I looked back at your other posts. I feel like the technical skill you're showing is really progressing. Anyhow, for this one, my two cents:

The composition and colors are wonderful. The coral treatment is fine. I know how much work it would be to go after it again. I just feel like the fish are too glowing and need some darks and line work to make them more realistic. And, yes, with the Super Bowl looming, fish #2 does look like he was hurled by Kurt Warner.
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

This painting is anything but boring it is beautiful! Maybe the blue could be of a lighter hue and more saturated.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:15 PM
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

Thanks all for the comments. I think painting the blue a lighter blue will help alot. I think as much as i don't want to I'm going to take a crack at lightening up the brown tenticles with a pinker/light purple color.

As for the fish football, I'm still working on that part.

But for the time being I'm gonna work on something else.
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

I see your goal as painting a characature of the happy life living on the reef..for me its a very happy place and I like it as is.
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

I was actually thinking you needed to lighten up the blues but what do I know...
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

I am thinking the backbround coral is competing with your main subject too much, this is an ultra quick edit to give you a possible direction
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

blue and orange would have been more dynamic.
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

loop has hit the nail on the head, the painting isn't too busy, the main character has to compete with its surroundings, which is how it survives in teh wild, but not in a painting.
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Old 01-29-2009, 11:21 PM
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Re: Clowns and Frogspwan Coral

Thank you all for your comments. It has helped clarify some of the direction on this piece. I started toning down the tentacles a bit and already I see an improvement. Still playing with the blue in the upper corners but I can tell a lighter color works.



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