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Old 10-24-2008, 06:33 PM
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Question The Structure of Man

I know this is a long shot, and is possibly unlikely; however, I will ask the question anyway.

Has anybody here bought and worked with The Structure of Man videos that you can buy at www.alienthink.com. If so I could really use some help with them.

No, I'm not the author of the videos plugging the product. I'm just an incompetent student, who makes the same mistakes over, and over, and over again; and, can never figure out why.
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:53 PM
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Re: The Structure of Man

??? It has been moved. Why? The videos were drawing videos.

Well, no biggie. It doesn't really matter were it is located. It only matters if people see it.
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Old 10-25-2008, 06:24 AM
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Re: The Structure of Man

I wish I could help you but I've had the very same problems. I was hugely disappointed that there were no instructions with it. I can't seem to get passed the first stage though now you have my curiosity peaked and I might give it a go again. I'll let you know if I have a brilliant break-through.

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I have these and have worked through about the first 40 videos or so.
I'll try to post up my work from them and a review later today. In the meantime if you have questions regarding the videos or the system he uses ...fire away.
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Re: The Structure of Man

Very interesting. I watched a few previews. Looks like the info is there, but pretty hard to watch because of low production values...poor lighting, unorganized, halting narration, etc. Look forward to seeing your results.
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Re: The Structure of Man

Good! Then I am not alone on this. OK, since you all are willing to participate, I will repeat the exercises and post my works on here. Maybe ya'll can tell me what I am doing wrong.
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Here's the work I did using those DVD's.















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OK, since you all are willing to participate

Now, I just want to be clear, I will not be working further than this, with these DVD's...at least not right now. I did these first 40 lessons last summer at which point I stopped.

In defense of the program, someone commented on their low budget nature, I believe they were originally a grad student project. If I recall correctly they were all free on youtube originally but since they received such a great response, the creator decided to sell them. I think it's a great situation and he deserves the success from his work. He is thorough and he covers anatomy while also imposing a proportional system and a methodology for drawing the figure from memory which is combined, all into one system.
With that being said, no video program is going to be as good as first hand instruction, in a classroom setting. I am in the midst of my second anatomy class and I have scheduled a third for next semester. I going to build an ecorche figure. For that reason, I cannot justify spending more time working from these. Further, these videos are time consuming and the proportional measurements can seem quite complicated the way he does them. At least that is my assessment. Granted I only watched through the first 40 videos.
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What's wrong with books? Bridgeman published quite a few to cover the same subject and they are right there in front of you and much less expensive. Do people think they get more from a visual media? Haven't noticed that myself. Intersting to see, not as interesting as a book to which you can refer again and again in front of you. And, re-read, almost a lost art.
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I keep a copy of Bridgman's book handy at all times and I have even marked the sections with tabs so that I can quickly reference the particular body part I am struggling with. I am a big fan of books. I am using Richer and Hale's "Artistic Anatomy" as my unofficial textbook for my classes right now and both the Drawing lessons from and Anatomy lessons from the Great masters books. I don't think anybody was suggesting that they don't have their place. It seemed to me that this thread was started because someone happened to be struggling with some of the information in these DVD's that's all.

I happen to agree with you to a point. Books are highly underutilized resources today. However, in some cases it is much easier to get the information visually. In the Air Force our training went through the whole gambit. We started by listening and reading followed by a demonstration by an instructor and then finally we did it ourselves under the watchful of that same instructor. Not everyone processes auditory, visual and kinetic learning equally. Some people learn better by one method or the other. I try to hit them all. I will try any method I can to shoehorn this information into my head and I would consider it foolish to look down my nose at any of them.
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Well, I'm back. Sorry I was so late. Jury Duty, helping a homeless man, procrastination, health problems, memory problems, etc.

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Now, I just want to be clear, I will not be working further than this, with these DVD's...at least not right now.


Hey, if all you can do is just tell me where I'm going wrong, that would help me a lot. I basically wanted to use this thread as a place to brainstorm solutions to obstacles I was encountering with the video.

Anyway, here are my attempts with lesson one. Yes, they always turn out that way. No, I wasn't drinking at the time. Can you tell me what the problem is; and how to achieve the solution? Oh, and Anuran. All I can say to your examples from the video is WOW!!. I want mine to turn out like that so badly.


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Re: The Structure of Man

I use both. I've been using Bridgman, Bammes, and Richer for years. Books are handy quick, and you can take them anywhere. Now, with the SoM DVD's, the benefit comes from watching someone who can draw, draw. Very useful for those of us unable to attend classes or have anyone one else around us who draws.
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