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Old 01-21-2008, 08:58 AM
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Double Helix Glass

Hello Everyone...this looks like a great site. My name is Zanzee, which is really my dog's name. Anyway, I am looking for information from other glass beadmakers about double helix glass. I know I am late in starting to use this glass but was wondering what experiences you have had with it. Also, do you need to use a respirator with it? It appears to be quite metallic in nature.

Also, what about Reichenbach COE 104 glass? Does it work well with Moretti?? You can tell I haven't been working with glass for very long.
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Re: Double Helix Glass

If you have a killer ventilation system you shouldn't need a mask. If you are really sensitive, have allergies or asthma or a poor ventilation system..it would be a VERY good idea especially if you want to use a lot of it.


Reichenbach does NOT go with Effetre ( old name is Moretti replaced with Effetre) They are very different different coes...BUT you can use a little 92-96 ( furnace glass which is Reichenbach) as a frit on Effetre. Just a little and some people still have trouble with clear casings cracking, depending on the clear.
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:33 PM
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Re: Double Helix Glass

Reichenbach DOES have a 104COE line that is compatable. I have used a couple of their pinks, including a yummy medium pink called opal raspberry!
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Re: Double Helix Glass

Oh My gosh! I totally apologize. I read the question wrong.

Yes...Reichenbach 104 would go well with Effetre and other 104's.

Thanks Lizajane for clearing that up.. my bad!

Although I have been reading reports that the new Reichenbach 104 has some compatibility issues...but that seems to hold true for all the 104's. Some colors are just more finicky than others.

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Re: Double Helix Glass

Lorraine, that's totally ok!

I actually have a couple colors. I love the opal raspberry. Most of the time I'm good with it, but I occassionally I boil it, or maybe it's divitrifying. It mostly happened when I first got it, but now it's going well.

Zanzee - as far as the DH glass, it has cause some people tears and others joy. The colors can be tempermental like raku. I am on a hothead and love Kronos (encased works great). I also like Olympia Rain, which was discontinued. I recently got some Nyx frit, very fine, and it created a beautiful effect. Now, some other colors I have had the worst time with. Terra for one, but some people make it sing. I think they have a striking guide on their website. Otherwise, use the search function to look up specific colors here.
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Re: Double Helix Glass

zanzee,
good luck w/ double helix.i bought some and am still trying to work it.i am not giving up.i am not asking trade secrets of those who can work it.i am going to ppppppp till i get double helix.if i go through all the rods i bought and never conquer it i will never buy it again,$$$$$$$$.DH is very pretty if you can get it to preform.being a newbie i bit off more than i could chew.
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Re: Double Helix Glass

I recently bought quite a bit of the Double Helix glass and am having a great time with it. I am working it with a Hot Head and I have had no problems getting Nyx, Psyche, Luna, and Gaia to strike. Terra on the other hand... shoosh.... I think this past weekend I got the best results out of it but still nothing like I was expecting.. I'm still a tad confused on their explanation of how to strike it.

I get the best results when I don't cover the holes in the hot head completely (or as completely as you can get with tin foil)

Here is their online guide to striking...
https://www.doublehelixglassworks.co...on=Custom&ID=6
Not sure if it is the same as the one they offer for free through the store.
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i bought terra.maybe thats where i went wrong.have a HH and i am having no luck.oh well,keep ppppppppppppppppp.
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Re: Double Helix Glass

I found the striking glasses needs to be a bit cooler then one might think to get them to "show". It's a difficult balancing act not to get it to cold where it cracks... but cool enough where it will let the silver up to the surface when re-heated. At least with the mask beads I made it worked that way. Every size of bead will react differently.
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Re: Double Helix Glass

zanzee, I don't know how long you have been lampworking, but I would recommend that you get some time working with other glasses under your belt before investing in Double Helix glass. It's wonderful glass and a bit expensive and many of the colors aren't the easiest color change glasses to work with. Make you sure you enough experience behind the torch before tackling these products.

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Re: Double Helix Glass

just to clear up another little mistake, Reichenback, Kugler, Zimmerman, Ornela and such furnace glasses are not coe 96 they are 90-93 and as such fit perfectly with bullseye and the schott 91 clear, the only 96 glasses are Spectrum and Gaffer. I know some suppliers list the german glass as 96 but they are incorrect in doing so.
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Re: Double Helix Glass

I love the double helix glasses!!! Nyx is very easy to strike. I also LOVE terra and have no problems with it on my mini cc. - I think I'm the odd ball out on that one.

I'd say just get some and try it. I've also been playing with black nebula this week and I'm in love! It's very easy to strike and it is 104 coe. I only wear a mask when fuming or using enamels.
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