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Old 12-28-2007, 02:15 PM
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I want to do a mixed media picture including pencils, oil and watercolor but my board is hot pressed. I am not sure if it has enough tooth. I dont want to go through a lot of work just to figure out that it doesnt work. Can anyone help?
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Old 12-28-2007, 02:59 PM
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Re: Can you watercolor on hotpress illustration board?

It would be great if you could do some quick tests on another piece of the same board. That is what will best answer your question. My concern would be a lack of sizing which could make your w/c behave in unusual ways. If the board is not intended to be wetted, it could warp, wrinkle, delaminate, overly absorb w/c etc. I'd hate to see you begin creating a beautiful piece, only to be disappointed in the results. A quick test is the best way to know for sure!
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: Can you watercolor on hotpress illustration board?

Watercolors will work if you don't work too thick, wet or in many layers. Applying WCs too thick will cause bronzing and keep moisture on the surface too long. As Lorraine mentioned bubbling and delamination is an issue if you use too much water. Watercolor paint will easily lift off of illustration board if you disturb it too much.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:06 PM
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Re: Can you watercolor on hotpress illustration board?

Can i suggest you try working on a smooth watercolour board like the Daler-Rowney board instead of working on a straight illustration board? They are pretty much the same but this has wc paper as the surface & is designed for wc use. Even the medium surface (NOT) is fairly smooth & i am able to achieve great glazing & detail on this surface.

It would also make a wonderful surface for pencil...dont know about oils? Someone will have better knowledge of this than me, but Daler-Rowney have been great for answering my questions so far.

It is a little dearer, but i love it & i think it would work well for you. Good luck!
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:21 PM
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Re: Can you watercolor on hotpress illustration board?

Been There, Done That! Except I didn't use any oils.... Watercolor will lift nearly completely. It will also "build" up if applied to thick and dry crumbly. It is fun and exciting though, expect the unexpected on that surface! Use a Cresent 100 weight... it is very thick and will hold up better. it also comes in cold press as well as rough... the cold press does have a little more tooth, but is still very smooth.
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Re: Can you watercolor on hotpress illustration board?

I have used Crescent watercolor board. It is essentially 140 lb paper laminated to a mount board. Mine was between hot press and cold press. Enjoyable to work with.

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Old 12-29-2007, 12:46 AM
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Re: Can you watercolor on hotpress illustration board?

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Susan Harrison Tustain has a couple of dvd's and she uses hot press pretty much exclusively.

I have tried her method and it works great.

Her secret is to wet just the area your going to paint. Then just as the shine goes away rewet the area again. Then start painting. Don't over do it with a lot of paint. Just add a little at a time. Remember what you see when you paint in watercolour will lighten up quite a bit.

I really recommend her dvd's to anyone. I have her book and all her dvd's .. She is awesome to watch and learn from.

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Re: Can you watercolor on hotpress illustration board?

One tip that I've read about--not sure where exactly--was to rub wax (the kind that is sold with canning supplies; just make sure it's the block kind, not the little beads...) on the edges of your board. It's supposed to keep the layers from separating which WILL happen if you work really wet; might help with warping too. I haven't tried it (yet) but I hope this helps...

I've used Crescent too and loved it...lot of fun!

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Re: Can you watercolor on hotpress illustration board?

What a wonderful idea! Wax on the edges!

That sounds like it might be parafin? Does anyone know?
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Re: Can you watercolor on hotpress illustration board?

Yes Donna, parafin is the wax used for canning.
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:43 AM
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Re: Can you watercolor on hotpress illustration board?

w/c board is all I used for a few years, Crescent and Strathmore. It's especially good in you're doing things like sticking tissue paper to it, collage, etc. Varnished, it's easy to frame without glass since it already has its own backing. Valfred Thlin used lots of w/c board, and I just put a big post about him on my blog that might interest you:

http://nicholassimmons.blogspot.com/
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