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Old 11-24-2007, 03:39 PM
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Okay...I guess I've stalled enough. Here are the pictures I'll be using for a commission piece for the Northern BC Winter Games. Well....I have a better picture of the surveyor statue, but I forgot to email it to my home 'puter.

I am hoping (begging really) for input on this. I have a picture in my head...but unfortunately that's usually where the picture remains. Any ideas on composition especially will be more than helpful.





This is the thingy that will have a flame burning during the games. (I'm sure there is a name for it...just can't quite think of it right now )



Sorry about the crappy pic...this is a very cool sculpture made by a local artist. It points north..(Dawson Creek is the beginning of the Alaska Hiway...formerly known as the Alcan Hiway).
The sculpture is made of wonderful rusty metal pieces.

So this is basically what I have to work with. The piece will be a half sheet 15x22. I think it will be more of a compilation of the various bits rather than a literal interpretation...if ya knows what I mean. (Hope somebody does )

Stay tuned for some compositional sketches coming up!!!
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So...here are the three components of the painting.
The background will be a deep blue sky...I think the sculpture dude should go up higher, so we can see the blue sky through the open parts of the sculpture.
Okay, all you that are not compositionally challenged as I am...what would make a pleasing composition?

I'm open to suggestions...and chocolate.
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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

Tracy,
This is very interesting. Will there also be text on the painting like the name of the games and dates? If so, you'll have to take that into consideration when planning placement of the three major elements.

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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

I would move the left hand sculpture either left or right so that the wit=dth does not coincide with the side of the gallery.

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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

Thanks Sylvia -No, there will be no text...they had considered it, but decided not to. The gold, silver and bronze medals will be incorporated into the framing, below the painting.

Thanks Doug - Yes, good point. I'll keep that in mind.

Here is a color sketch...just trying to get an idea that works.



I don't know about the flaming thing...it is a cool shape...but I don't know if I can paint convincing fire...and it might look odd without fire...all opinions appreciated.

Back to the drawing board!!
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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

Geez.....straighten me out,Tracy. Am I to assume you must incorporate all three elements into one design?
And that flaming "thing a ma gig" has the 5 Olympic rings?
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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

You have so much to fit into one painting, I think landscape format will work better.

Then have the building on the left, the statue on the right, and maybe have the torch above and behind everything (central and fading out at the bottom). I can't think of anything else that would work.

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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

I think Ruth is right, Tracy. Try a landscape format, it gives you a lot more room to place your pieces.

One of my instructors told us when she is putting together a composition, she often draws the elements on drawing paper and cuts them out. Then she moves them about on her paper until she gets a good composition and draws it. You might try something like that with these three components.

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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

*nodding* in agreement with Ruth and Sylvia... the three elements are competing for attention and none of them is strong enough in colour or detail to lead the procession... You can do this, but positioning of your elements is really going to be key to the success of your painting...

Congratulations (I think... ) on your commission...
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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

Hi Tracy ... I'm rather new to commenting on other's works. When I saw the complexity of the three elements, I thought perhaps you could fade the building so that it is almost transparent and definitiely serving as a background design, then use the statue in the lower right pointing to the flame stand in the upper left.
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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

Oh Ruth...of course you're right!! (smacking forehead!) Not sure why I was trying to cram it all in sideways...
Thanks Sylvia - another brilliant idea! I knew I could count on you guys!!
Thanks Char - Yes, composition is key...and I am not so very very great at that...I appreciate your input so much. And I think that doing commission work is perhaps not quite as exciting as I thought it might be...big pain in the butt really
Thanks for your input too, Jack, (and welcome to our crazy world!)...I'll definitely keep your ideas in mind.

Well, back to the drawing board...and turning it sideways
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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

Oh and Seedy! Yeah...not sure what the heck I was thinkin'!!! And...don't know much about the flaming thingy... I just have to paint it! Anyone know how to paint fire?!?!
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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

OH BOY!! This is a tricky one!!
I like the ideas presented...and can't offer much in that way...I am so NOT good at composition!!!! So I will offer moral support and hang out to see what you come up with....which I am sure will be wonderful!
I always thought com work would be so cool too...till I had to do them!!!
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Re: Dawson Creek Art Gallery - WIP

You could paint it landscape format Tracy with each element vignetted something like this with fuzzy edges:



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Oh boy....you poor thing.....a lot to fit into a painting! I agree that a landscape would best fit these structures. I like the idea of the sculpture behind the building too. Good Luck in whatever you choose and keep us posted.
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