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Old 08-27-2007, 11:42 PM
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Stone Steps

This is from a photo I took on vacation. It is willow charcoal with pastel on Mi-teint paper. 22" x 18". I love all the great input from people on this site so don't hesitate to point out where this piece could be better.
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Re: Stone Steps

Hi Randy.. this is a very interesting with the stone steps overlapping the way they do.. The grass is done really nicely the yellow in particular looks really real--- what I would do is go into the stone steps more and make them deeper in value.. just a little more in the shading.. but an interesting composition.. Margot
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Re: Stone Steps

Very interesting stone work Randy, and I like the yellow grasses also. In future drawings...try not to outline the stone so much. Another thought that you might consider is a light source. Rock and stone is one of my favorite subjects to draw and when you can do so with deep shadows and bright sunlight the effect is very interesting.

This sort of ties in with what Margot is saying..deeper values will work wonders.
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Re: Stone Steps

Hi Randy. I was going to echo what Steve and Margo said but no use repeating it. Still and all, it's a comfortable looking place and a nice drawing.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:32 AM
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Re: Stone Steps

Thanks Margo, Steve and Ken. I'll work on the piece a little more.

I was going back and forth about the rock outlines. I started taking them out and then added them back in. I'll take them out and add shading.
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Okay, changes made. What do you think now?
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Re: Stone Steps

I think they look great Randy !
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Re: Stone Steps

Randy I think this is a very good improvement, especially with what you did with the rock outlines.

I hope you don't mind that I posted both images next to each other. I believe this example could really help some beginners to understand the making of edges with values and not lines.

What I would like to know is what do you think?

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Re: Stone Steps

I Appreciate Your Putting The Two Images Side By Side. As A Relative Beginner I Can Clearly See The Difference...a Great Example Of Line/value...makes More Sense To Me Now Having Seen This....thanks Very Much
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Re: Stone Steps

No problem Steve. That was a good idea. My first thought is what a difference in images. The second one is so brown. I'll have to check which one resembles the original better.

Yes, big improvement. The outlines make the image too cartoony. I'm happier with the changes. That's what is great about charcoal. I can keep making big changes up until the end.
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That's a big improvement as everyone has said, Randy. Edges are tricky for new artists to grasp .. as Steve said .. this is a great example.

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