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Old 11-26-2006, 12:30 AM
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Post Project Discussion: Pastel Portrait Challenge

A new project has been announced in the WetCanvas! project system!

Title: Pastel Portrait Challenge
Project Leader: bruce johnson
Relative Difficulty: Hard
Type Restrictions: Painting
Medium: Pastels
Subject: Portrait
Days open for signups: Always
Maximum participants allowed: Unlimited

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This portrait challenge is for all levels of artist who want to learn my techniques for pastel portraiture...
All artists will paint the same ref (Julie) and post their progress updates, I will critique each update as we go. There is no time limit and new participants are welcome to join in as we go...
The ref image has two very difficult areas, the teeth and the hair.. so we will progress through those stages in small steps at a time..
I high resolution image of the Julie image has been added to the Image Reference library.

I must emphasise that these are techniques that I have developed myself and may not necessarily be considered correct or the accepted norm for pastel painting.. I'm just new at pastels and don't know any better..

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For more information on the project: Click here! This will take you to the Project Page, click on Browse project and and then Sign up for project... then you're off..

Remember, in order to help keep the discussions on projects organized, you should post your questions, suggestions, and comments on submitted work here in this thread. By doing this, we allow other non-project efforts to not get "pushed down" by a swarm of project-related threads.

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Old 11-26-2006, 02:19 AM
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Comment on final entry by: Jolanta

Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/...entry_id=57078




Very accurate line drawing Jolanta,. you're off to a great start.. I'll add mine in about an hour or so..
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:26 AM
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Comment on final entry by: deepat

Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/...entry_id=57077

Julie line drawing


Top stuff Deidre, I would check Julie's right eye and note how the cheek and bottom eye lid interact.. it will be important to have this accurate for when we add cool and warm colours.. Great tip on using neutral colours for the line drawing. I'll try that ..
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Old 11-26-2006, 04:04 AM
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Comment on final entry by: bock

Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/...entry_id=57080

Julie line drawing


Great start Pat... what colour paper are you using.. its a litle dark to see all your detail
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Old 11-26-2006, 04:09 AM
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Re: Project Discussion: Pastel Portrait Challenge

When I do my line drawing I lay my ref pic alongside the paper, making sure the edges of the ref pic are square to the paper. using the pencil I transfer the angle (front edge) of the face and the bottom edge of the chin to the paper. this gives me a starting ref point. I then take a compass and very accurately measure off the outer limits of the head.. because the ref is smaller than the painting I scale up the measurements by creating my own scale.. If anyones not sure how to do the scale just ask and I'll demonstrate the method..
Once I have the outer limit distances I transfer the angle of the outer edges by using the pencil again, until I have blocked in the complete head.
I then move onto the facial features, using the same method, I locate the position of the eyes ears mouth and nose..this is all very loose at this stage. I'm always checking back and forward to ensure that I have the proportions and perspective correct.
Once the head and features are blocked in I will begin developing the facial contours a little more precisely., but still reasonably loose.. At the end of this stage the likeness should be starting to develop..

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Re: Project Discussion: Pastel Portrait Challenge

I have started to develop the facial features in this stage, I am being careful to ensure I get the profile of her cheek (front edge) correct as this will determine the amount of smile Julie has. Very important for likeness .. still very loose at this stage.. its a bit like marking out the foundation of a building.. draughtsmanship I believe they call it..

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Old 11-26-2006, 05:14 AM
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Re: Project Discussion: Pastel Portrait Challenge

Once I get the location of the features in place I draw the detail of the features in by freehand.. and then erase the construction lines. I've developed Julie as far as I need before I start adding colour.. I think i have a reasonable likeness going on... I'm still having trouble uploading an image via the project site. It keeps telling me to specify a file, but I am and its not working.. Any ideas?

Its dinner time here now so I start to add colour tomorrow night..

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Re: Comment on final entry by: deepat

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Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/...entry_id=57077

Julie line drawing


Top stuff Deidre, I would check Julie's right eye and note how the cheek and bottom eye lid interact.. it will be important to have this accurate for when we add cool and warm colours.. Great tip on using neutral colours for the line drawing. I'll try that ..
I did the original from the smaller res photo...so I can work on it now from the high res, from which I can see the details...such as the one's mentioned.
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Old 11-26-2006, 10:38 AM
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Re: Project Discussion: Pastel Portrait Challenge

Bruce, what size is your painting?
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Re: Project Discussion: Pastel Portrait Challenge

Bruce....It's white, half sheet of 140# Arches. I think it's the light I took the photo in. You added alot of detail looks great! Wondering if I should add more detail. I only did a very simple line drawing.
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Old 11-26-2006, 11:41 AM
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Comment on progress entry by: Jolanta

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Good one Jolanta,,,but I knew it would be! Only problem it's not easy to see...
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Re: Project Discussion: Pastel Portrait Challenge

Bruce,

Thanks for posting the stages of your drawing. Being fairly new I find that very helpful.

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If anyones not sure how to do the scale just ask and I'll demonstrate the method..
Please do!

Have my line drawing done... as soon as I find how to post it I will.

Thanks Much,
Marcia

I found it, it's uploaded.

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Old 11-26-2006, 12:08 PM
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Re: Project Discussion: Pastel Portrait Challenge

Thank you Dee. You right, it's hard to see. I didn't want line drawing to show through pastels. I will play on piece of paper if I can make it darker and still cover with color. So - the instructions are here and all comments but the progress we upload at the project thread right? You can tell I am getting older and need to be told more than once
Bruce - thanks for the great start. After looking at your drawing I think I need to shorten her nose on mine??? Help me here, you know her
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:31 PM
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Re: Project Discussion: Pastel Portrait Challenge

I went over my line drawing with grey pastel pencil to make it darker. I did fix her nose some too I think it looks better now.
Bruce when you started this project you didn't know what you are getting into We sure will keep you busy here. You asked for it
We do appreciate your hard work
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Re: Project Discussion: Pastel Portrait Challenge

Going over the line drawing makes a lot of sense Jolanta. I think I'll do that and then come back here for more data. I notice that Bruce puts a lot of detail in his line drawing. Doesn't that get covered up when you put the pastel on it?

Bruce, what is the time difference between where you live and Utah, USA? I need to know so I can plan to work around your schedule.
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