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Old 11-08-2006, 11:15 AM
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Talking Rev. Tate protrait completion

I am calling this portrait complete. I have enlarged the eyebrows since this scann. Enjoy your feedback.
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Old 11-08-2006, 02:26 PM
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Re: Rev. Tate protrait completion

If it would be my work, I would continue as long as I would get great feedback from other artists here at WC. When I want to give my portrait to somebody I want to make sure it is the best I can do. You did very good so far, but it could use more work. Just remember this portrait will last for generations to admire - don't rush! We are here to help and you can make it even better. The first thing I see in your portrait his nostrils are not even. This is easy fix. Then check the outline of his face and adjust a bit where it needs to bulge a bit. His hair needs more darks too. Now the most important thing is eyes. Take a good look at the values (darks) there. Draw what you see as far as shapes and darkness. His left eye in your drawing is opened too much. He is smiling and pushing his cheeks up making his eyes look narrow. Pay attention how dark some places look like and try to match it.
I know you cannot wait to give it to him, but take a bit more time and try your best so you will be appreciated and remembered forever!!!
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Old 11-08-2006, 02:37 PM
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Re: Rev. Tate protrait completion

One more thing. His neck is far tooo long. Take kneaded eraser and lift some graphite above his shoulders and bring his shoulders up. You want him to be happy about his looks and your portrait. I know you can do it if you just give it a bit more time.
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Re: Rev. Tate protrait completion

Jolanta has some very good advice, and while any rendering is never perfect, a bit more time to check mesurements and darks are very important. and espicaly the eyes as mentioned. one thing also that may give your rendering a bit more finished look is working with the background a bit to alter the lights and darks more. was this done on a sketch pad?
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:36 AM
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Re: Rev. Tate protrait completion

I have been posting to two forums the Porature and Drawign and sketching.
Sometimes I forget what I have posted to where. You are absolutely right about the advice. As long as I get helpful advice I immedialty try to make those changes.
http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381490
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Old 11-10-2006, 09:06 AM
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Rev. Tate Preview

I made the noted changes as recommended. So here is the
results of applyig those changes. Welcome your comments.

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Old 11-10-2006, 11:05 AM
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I've merged these two threads as they are of the same portrait.

Nice work!
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Old 11-10-2006, 04:39 PM
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Re: Rev. Tate Preview

You have the outer corners of his eyes slanting downwards, giving him somewhat of a "hang dog" look, which you've overemphasized by the dark downwards laugh lines. You should make the inner corners angle slightly upwards, and minimize those downward wrinkles.

The bottom half of his face shows a strong perspective distortion to his left (the RH side, as viewed), but his chin distorts to his right, and the chin and jawline are too narrow and pointy. His chin is more rounded, and the shadow you show at the bottom of his chin, is actually a bit of a "double chin," with his real chin line about 1/3" higher up. You've also shaded the upper "ball of the chin" curve crooked, angling to the left, rather than being level, as in the picture.
His upper lip is a bit too narrow on the LH side, as viewed. It should extend to the corner of the mouth. The right side, as viewed, is too long, making his mouth look somewhat lopsided. The mouth should extend from pupil to pupil on the face. This is a large part of the proportion distortion, which is compounded by his nose being too long, with the nostrils too far down, and misshapen.

His eyebrows are too narrow and tapered in shape. If you look from the arch outward, you will see that this man's eyebrows are fairly wide, and untweezed, with hairs, not shapes or shadows or pale "tails."

The top of his head is too "poofy," contributing to the overly long head effect.
His shoulders are too low, making his neck too long. Even though the photo has him in a windbreaker jacket, his shoulders will be higher, and slightly more rounded in shape.

Mind you, many people will not notice such fine details, because they will not be looking at a photograph next to the portrait, nor necessarily the subject standing next to it, with that exact same expression. Overall, this is a good portrait, with very nice, even, smoothly blended lines and shading. I merely post these observations, to help your "viewer's eye" see some things that you many have missed.

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