True fire...again

Pilon · #1 07-14-2006, 05:45 AM

First attempt…

I was first trying to paint blue fire, which
did not work to my satisfaction. So, trying
not to reinvent the wheel, I went for the true fire
as Explained by Mike Lavallee.

This was done on prepared canvas with gesso,
and golden paints. Actually, I found that the
hardest part was using the right mix of colors,
especially the ability to imitate the Kandy apple red.
another difference from working with Uro's , is the
need to wait for the diluted paints to dry, otherwise
you get smudges all over.

The finished piece was cleared with a spray can.

fear_cult · #2 07-14-2006, 06:01 AM

nice man what exactly did you do to imitate the kandies?

Pilon · #3 07-14-2006, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fear_cult

nice man what exactly did you do to imitate the kandies?

Can't tell you exactly. I just experimented with "Bright orange"
And "Naphthol red light". Added a few drops of this and that,
To get that kandy apple red and tangerine yellow.

They were heavily diluted with GOLDEN Airbrush Transparent Extender.

**GlenTaylor** · #4 07-14-2006, 07:15 AM

Hi I would think that is not the colour as much as the last statement "They were heavily diluted with GOLDEN Airbrush Transparent Extender."
, I think the Kandy apple is the clear red, see thru look it gives you.

Glen

Pilon · #5 07-14-2006, 07:38 AM

I agree, although I have played with pictures of fire using photoshop,
just to figure out the "mechanics" of flames. What I have discovered
after changing hue and saturation, that fire
could just as easily look like realistic smoke or plain attractive abstract forms.
Anything but fire.
What I'm saying is – shape is not everything. color is a major player in the construction of fire, which makes monochrome fire not so easy to paint.

**GlenTaylor** · #6 07-14-2006, 11:24 AM

Hi So when playing in photo shop did you put a photo of fire or and painted image.

Glen

Pilon · #7 07-14-2006, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlenTaylor

Hi So when playing in photo shop did you put a photo of fire or and painted image.

Glen

Hi glen
Not sure what you mean. In photoshop, I took a photo of fire and played with it, just to studey the different shapes and colors.
As for the actual painting...I did start with a ref photo, but just
in the early stages.
Anyway, I would love to hear comments of my 1st attempt. I like it
but by no means think it's perfect. (The yellow turning a bit green is one problem)

**slaterza** · #8 07-14-2006, 12:00 PM

This looks great. I keep contemplating experimenting with doing some true fire. This turned out really well.

optic · #9 07-14-2006, 02:49 PM

Hi Pilon,

Nice job, I liked the sparkly ends, which we don't always see in the true fire works and I believe the real fire has some...

**GlenTaylor** · #10 07-14-2006, 04:14 PM

Thanks you, I just need to know if the ref was a photo of fire, not a copy of one of the so called true fire paintings. I like the fire, it is alot better then my first atemtp.

Glen

Arejay · #11 07-14-2006, 08:11 PM

It's beautiful. Looks almost like a glass sculpture of fire. It's obvious that a lot of time and technique went into this piece.

Pilon · #12 07-15-2006, 04:29 AM

thank you guys.
Arejay, it did take some time to make, but mainly because of the time spent
mixing the colors or waiting for the layers to dry. I believe that for better results, the process should be in a faster flowing manner. I remember reading
something that Penny said, that when she started thinking of how to make the fire, things went bad all of a sudden. this is my feeling to.

Glen...I tried both a photo of fire and a photo of true fire painting. It's alot easier to follow a true fire painting than a photo of real fire, but i think is lesser in realism. However, if you have a deadline or working on large area,
Mike Lavallee's method is the way to go, without a doubt.

**GlenTaylor** · #13 07-15-2006, 06:17 AM

Thank I will wait till I braai again at night and take a few snap of the fire and have a good look at it. I agree with one of your statemnt that you dont need to buy stenciles just cut them yourself.

Glen

Penny220 · #14 07-15-2006, 11:09 AM

looks very nice.

To answer the questions, Candies are transparents but transparents are not candies. A true Candy is black in the bottle regardless of what color it is. Although in most cases a transparent will get you around the Candy it will not "pop" quite like a candy does.

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