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Old 05-20-2006, 03:07 PM
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Analyze This! Renoir: Dance at Bougival

If I had a wish, it would be today to be her dancing in Paris.



Pierre-Auguste Renoir 1841-1919
Dance at Bougival
1883
Oil on Canvas
181.8 x 98.1cm (71 5/8 x 38 5/8 in.)
Museum of Fine Arts, Boston


There is no one else in the world but him she thinks. This man,
Renoir's brother. It's a happy place, full of the unexpected.

What makes this painting?
How did Renoir create this mood?

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Re: Analyze This! Renoir: Dance at Bougival

The gay blade (gay as in gay Paree) in the straw hat created the mood. After six mugs of beer and fat cigar, Maddymoselle had to turn her nose away from a blast of halitosis. I suspect much of this mood owes to a camera. Take a look and the position of the man's left foot. Then bring your eye up his leg. There is a pronounced twist because he did not properly shade the bend around of the leg. Did not correct the photo distortion. Tsk, tsk. Also he ingnored aerial perspective (or had no idea what it was all about) and the dance floor has no depth recession. The dancers will slip right out the bottom of the frame if you stare at it for a while. Tsk, tsk.
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Old 05-20-2006, 06:41 PM
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Re: Analyze This! Renoir: Dance at Bougival

You crack me up Luke, I've met a few fellows after six mugs & a fat cigar, you did kind of stand back a little.
I read that Renoir was maybe color blind.
I don't know.
You mean a man's foot can turn that way when he dances?
And you really think there is no perspective, is it a spin on
Pre-Raphaelites and their style?
Does a painting need aerial perspective?
Are you tsk-tsking me?
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Heaven's no I am not tsk tsking you!!!! I'm grovelling for a star, don't forget. (big goggle eyed smiley)
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Hi Nickel and Luke,

I like how her red hat creates a focal point!

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"How did this impressionist junk sneak into the Classical Art forum?"
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Hi Jive,

It's really great to see you.

As far as "impressionist's junk", there's been a long standing debate as to where and when to cut off what is considered "classical art". Originally, impressionism was OK. Anything after that, wasn't considered "classical".

For a while, it was anything "up to impressionism".

I can understand your concern. Really! This is right on the line, by our definition.

So, can you at least help us show how Renoir shows his "classical roots"?

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Hey, it's not me. I was channeling the ghost of Rembrandt. Actually, I go for Baroque.
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Re: Analyze This! Renoir: Dance at Bougival

I think Luke is right - she is definitely avoiding him! I think the shape of her swirling dress is like the tail of an arrow pointing to her hat.
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Anita - I was noticing that the swirls in her dress lead your eye around the painting too! I hadn't noticed the "arrow", but you are absolutely right!

Rembrandt - Thanks, for stopping by our forum! It's such an honor to meet you!

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Re: Analyze This! Renoir: Dance at Bougival

Hi Everyone, thanks for your opinions. I feel grateful to be among artists that are well-rounded and can see the benefit of impression.

It is technically traditional art.
Plus, if it matters, Renoir used black.
And he was a tonal painter.

There is a difference of course in his work compared to Rembrandt but he
has been compared to Rubens as a young man working in a porcelain factory.

Renoir's darks are thin and lights thick.

His technique was to work dark to light.

As fars as his use of reds, he is said to say, "

I want my reds to sing out
like a bell. If it doesn't, I add reds and other colors until I get there."

I think her bonnet sings pretty loud. It reminds me of Vermeer's
Red Hat.

The guy is Renoir's brother. I wonder why he turned his face.
It surely creates a story hence a mood of subjection by the lady.

Renior is closer to Leonardo too,
Renior said,
"You come before nature with theories:
Nature throws them to the ground."

It is interesting the white dress.
An arrow to the red singing bell!
Bravo Anita. You picked that out beautifully.
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Dark to light really makes sense to me - I was always taught that what you paint last stands out the most so logically in that case the highlights should be painted last.
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