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Old 09-12-2005, 07:56 PM
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Looking at you - WIP

This is what I am working on at the moment. Inspired by Armin's rendering of the eyes of his fathers in his most recent work. I took a picture of Regina's eye (testing my new cameras at the same time) and try to be as realistic as I can.

I am not striving for "likeness" in this attempt only technique and "realism" so no reference picture.

The drawing is roughly letter size (A4) and done with a variety of pensils (7B - 6H), a lot of patience and more than not a lot of frustration. This will be an extremely slow WIP since I am learning new things with each stroke of the pencil. No blending, just pencil work.
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Re: Looking at you - WIP

WOW Reinhard!!! This is AMAZING!!!!!!! So glad you showed us! Which camera have you got? Did you take the photo in daylight, inside or out?
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:41 PM
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Anita thanks for the comment. It is a Canon Rebel XT (EOS 350D here in Europe), 8 MP and the photo was taken in daylight inside. The 8 MP really show. It is a real pleasure to enlarge the picture and still see no "pixelating".
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I am green with envy Reinhard! I have the Canon Digital Rebel but it doesn't have the monochrome facility of the XT. Even with the 6.4 megapixels you can get pretty big before it pixellates.
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The detail is exquisite and the reality is there. Excellent work!
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Stunning work RR Bro are using the circular strokes and have you blended them?
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Reinhard, this is wonderful...and no blending at all? you'll be giving Armin a run for his money soon if you keep this up!
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This certainly looks great Reinhard -- I am following with great interest.

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Re: Looking at you - WIP

Anita, I know what you feel. But having had the possibility to select I chose the Canon over the Nikon D70s because of it's 8 MP vs 6.2. Additionally all the tests I read rated the Canon as the best camera at the moment so it was rather easy. On top of that. I have had the experience in the past that more often than not people liked how they looked on snapshots in groups in enlargening these images resulted too often in loss of detail which I need to draw. Whether my drawings will improve remains to be seen, at least I don't have the excuse any longer that I couldn't do it because I couldn't see those all important details. LOL
Jeanette, thanks so much. It is a practice piece in which I wanted to really go into details. Could be that I loose myself in them but at least it's a very good learning experience. Each pencil stroke a new discovery. I feel a little bit like Columbus in this drawing.
sults sis, this is exclusively circles and absolutely no blending whatsoever. I am learning that blending will eliminate the 3d structure of the skin, at least when I do it.
Billie, as I said to sults, no blending. Armin is my beacon, I wil NEVER reach him but there is always something in his work that I might be able to try and reap some benefit for me.
Val, I try. As I said, this is an experiment for me and it will be interesting to see how far I might be able to take it (or it will take me).
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Re: Looking at you - WIP

Now, I am genetically bred for paranoia, Rein so let me just say that --IT'S STARING AT ME!!!"

Seriously, so far so good--this is a good eye for study--students should post it as a reference--you can clearly see the role of geometrich shapes--especially in the eyeball itself. I think you have a winner here my friend--and your artistic progress is just stunning!! Keep it up!

HEY, I AM STILL WAITING FOR MY SQUIRREL!!!
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Re: Looking at you - WIP

Das ist gut - I think that is the way ya say it. I remeber that if it was really good, which this is, it was zer gut. Anyway I am watching with interest because I get carried away with eyes also. Have them all over my drawing pads, trying to make them as realistic as I can.
Question: Sults mentioned drawing in circles, I have noticed this before in some threads could you give a brief description of what you all are refering to when you talk about drawing in circles? Or is there some place in WC they talk about it?

Anyway - very nice work!
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JayD, thanks a lot for the comment and compliment. Looking at it right now after having read your remark I agree 100% with you about the geometric shapes, I have to confess that I did not look at the eye with this in mind when I started. I was, and I still am, concentrating very closely on individual shadows and their relationship to each other. I am learning that skin itself has a definite 3d structure and I am trying to capture that. As for the squirrel, I think I have to ask for a little bit of patience, I am, sorry, as yet not in a real squirrel mood - still too fascinated with the human face in graphite.
John, danke and thanks for the comments. The circling technique, as I understand it and as I am learning to apply in my recent drawings, is nothing but drawing instead of lines with very small overlapping circles until a tonal value is achieved. I find that it gives me an extraordinary ability to control the value I want. I am by no means an expert, this description goes to Armin (Eclipse here in WetCanvas), but a self teaching amateur. Another advantage of circulism, I find, is the fact that I can't get a straight line which in nature does not exist anyway so I can get a less artificial look. And lastly, I don't need to blend since I can get the tonal values and the transitions I want simply by applying pressure (more or less) which comes in handy when doing structured skin. My learning experience has been to draw very tiny cirlcles and to take time to draw them. I found out that I always wanted to draw the circles too fast and in consequence, lost control. It might take longer but I find it worthwhile to invest that time.
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Re: Looking at you - WIP

Very good start Reinhard and I am green with envy about your camera. Felicidades!
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Mary, gracias on both accounts. I loved my G3 but it was sooooooo slow that I lost too many snapshots, especially in darker environments, that I had to invest anew. I am now just looking forward to try my new baby with shots all over the place from flora to fauna to portraits. I still need good pictures from my children so I can continue to bother you with my family" series and one day draw them all in one BIG drawing (still long time away) but a boy can dream, can't I????
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About 5 more hours into it.

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