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Old 01-13-2002, 11:18 PM
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Blombas Cave and ancient art, maybe?

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I've been following the story of Blombas Cave for a while now, since I saw an article that mentioned it in the National Geographic last year sometime (I think). The story behind this place is fascinating. It's been dated to about 70,000 to 100,000 years b.p. The stone tools that have been found here are astounding. They are similar in style to tools that appear in Europe at about 30,000 years b.p. The kicker for me really comes when you are told that the tools are manufactured from a substance that is not found there......the stone the tools are made from is from about 10 miles away from there. To me this indicated serious craftsmanship, a search for better materials, and in the final analysis, art. On top of the discovery of these incredible tools, etc, comes this:

From the BBC:
'Oldest' prehistoric art unearthed


Are abstract markings on a piece of ochre ancient art?

By BBC News Online science editor Dr David Whitehouse
The world's oldest example of abstract art, dating back more than 70,000 years, has been found in a cave in South Africa.



They may have been constructed with symbolic intent, the meaning of which is now unknown

Dr Christopher Henshilwood, State University of New York at Stony Brook
Scientists say the discovery shows that modern ways of thinking developed far earlier than we think.

The abstract art was found on two pieces of ochre in a cave on the southern Cape shore of the Indian Ocean.

Previously, the earliest evidence of abstract art came mainly in France from the Eurasian Palaeolithic period less than 35,000 years ago.

Complex motif

Dr Christopher Henshilwood, from the State University of New York at Stony Brook, says: "They may have been constructed with symbolic intent, the meaning of which is now unknown.



Dr Christopher Henshilwood believes the items are significant

"The engraving itself is quite a complex geometric pattern. There is a system to the patterns."

"We don't know what they mean, but they are symbols that I think could have been interpreted by those people as having meaning that would have been understood by others."

The engraved ochre pieces were recovered from Middle Stone Age layers at Blombos Cave, 290 kilometres (180 miles) east of Cape Town, and are at least 70,000 years old.

Dr Henshilwood says more than 8,000 other pieces of ochre were found in the cave, many of which had been rubbed smooth as if to make pigment powder.




Some say they could be just meaningless doodles?

Ochre, a form of iron ore, is frequently found in Stone Age deposits less than 100,000 years old. It may have been used as a body or decorative paint.
The researchers believe that the ochre was first scraped and ground to create flat surfaces. It was then marked with cross hatches and lines to create a complex motif.

The find pushes back by some 35,000 years the earliest time when biologically modern humans were known to have developed modern behaviour.

"The theory up until now has been that modern human behaviour started only around 40,000 years ago," says Dr Henshilwood.

"The whole of South Africa was occupied by a biologically modern people who had evolved about 150,000 years ago.



The research team excavate in Blombos Cave

"There is no doubt that the people in southern Africa were behaviourally modern 70,000 years ago."

'Just doodlings'

Scientists believe that these finds demonstrate that ochre use in the Middle Stone Age was not exclusively utilitarian and, arguably, the transmission and sharing of the meaning of the engravings relied on fully syntactical language.

While the markings are suggestive, not all scientists are prepared to classify them as a form of artistic expression and abstract thought.

Steve Kuhn of the University of Arizona says the finding is the result of some "very good work by some very serious researchers".

But he adds: "I'd be more comfortable if there were more of these engraved stones; if these alleged symbols were found many times in different places. It is possible they were just doodlings that really didn't mean anything."




Blombos Cave is 290 kilometres (180 miles) east of Cape Town

The research was funded by the US National Science Foundation and is published in the journal Science.



And here's the link if you want to see a couple of images:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci...00/1753326.stm

There's a good bit more info on the web if you are interested. Just do a search on Blombas Cave. I've actually emailed the professor (Dr. Henshilwood) because I had a million questions when I read the National Geographic article, but haven't heard back yet. Considering he's out in the field working on this place, I kind of doubt I will.
Anyway, I'm curious. What do you guys think of this?
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Old 01-15-2002, 04:03 PM
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I think that Steve Kuhn of the University of Arizona may be missing the boat! This is fascinating stuff!

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Old 01-16-2002, 09:10 AM
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Aurora...

You pretty much know where I stand. I was looking at the ochre in the first attachment (not the blk and white on the link page),and I sat back and asked myself what I would do with the rock. I already collect rocks with odd shapes and engrave or paint them.

I saw not abstract markings, but a non-artist trying to make the rock form match a real form. I see mostly a fish, with a fin and the diamond markings as scales. The hole looks pounded out as if for an eye. There is even a gill plate where one would occur on a real fish, and a lateral line. It looks as if the back of the rock is broken off, but I would bet it went on to include more scales and fins, and tail. Given the same train of thought...even a lizard, or snake.
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Old 01-16-2002, 10:47 AM
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You know, you may be on to something there. These people lived by the ocean, and their primary substanance was seafood and fish. Would make sense.
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