"Purple Iris" WIP - Page 6

PapaWhiskey · #76 07-29-2005, 03:24 PM

Mr Martin,
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain the prepping process. I will try to find the Grumbacher Gesso locally today after work.

One more thing (I don't expect you to reply to this). I don't know how you find the time to paint, when your're taking the time to answer questions form all the threads you have going here at wetcanvas.com. I'm just glad you do.

You are an invaluable resource here,
God bless you,
Patrick.

katz · #77 07-29-2005, 03:42 PM

Wonderful painting.
Thanks for showing your wip.
Gay

Florian · #78 07-29-2005, 03:48 PM

Bill, your painting is absolute outstanding, can’t turn away my eyes from it! You are a Master of the glazing technique. Congratulations!!

Excellent thread, thanks for sharing!

Florian

Squib · #79 07-29-2005, 05:30 PM

Bill, I just don't know what to say - "dumbstruck" comes to mind - because that's exactly what I am ! This is magnificent, and of course, with your thorough explanations, I feel as though we all got some private tuition. Thank you so much.

Moosehead · #80 07-29-2005, 05:35 PM

Patrick/PapaWhiskey.

I see from your # of posts here that you are quite new to the site. So first of all, welcome.

You may already know this, but you can find all threads by a user by clicking on their name. Bill has completed a # of demos, and, as you say, they are very helpful-so you may want to look at some of his older ones as well. The combination of visuals and written descriptions is a valuable learning tool. Several others here also have done excellent demos. You can check the "Oil Painting Hall Of Fame", and you can also sort the regular Oil Forum by # of replies. Often those with numerous replies are demos, so those should be nearer the top if you sort this way.

HRobinson · #81 07-29-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WFMartin

However, my friend, as you already are aware, I'm sure, we artists are all alike, in that we all choose to work in our own styles, and for our own reasons. My style is realism, and I truly, honestly, and definitely, enjoy every second of every minute of every hour that I spend in this colossal "waste of time" that you have chosen to title my realistic approach.

Sorry if you don't share my enthusiasm. Just consider yourself fortunate that I'm not asking you to buy it.

Bill

LOL! I was like that (meticulous) when I was building R/C models. I don't know why now that I don't paint like I built models! But I do understand about your motivation! It's not just the finished product but the journey that you (and I, too ) enjoy. Thanks. -Harry

P.S. Maybe we can do some horse tradin' someday.

WFMartin · #82 07-29-2005, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HRobinson

LOL! I was like that (meticulous) when I was building R/C models. I don't know why now that I don't paint like I built models! But I do understand about your motivation! It's not just the finished product but the journey that you (and I, too ) enjoy. Thanks. -Harry

P.S. Maybe we can do some horse tradin' someday.

Harry,

You're a good guy, and I'm not taking your comments the wrong way--just trying to explain how much I truly enjoy the "journey", as you say.

I've actually tried painting other ways, and for me, it just doesn't seem to cut it, I guess. I am finding out, as others may learn, as well, that even the meticulous-ness seems rather straightforward, when it has been practiced a bit. (This is ONE case in which "practice, practice, practice" actually DOES pay off.) And, I'm finding this attention to detail does actually NOT take all the time that it is often thought to take. Nor does it require all that extraordinary amount of patience that others believe it to require.

I am learning, as I get older, that an artist honestly does not have to paint the way others tell him that he should paint. One rather falls into the methods and style that is comfortable to him, regardless of how many are telling him that he should be painting some other way. I am reminded of a self-taught, professional artist who did a brief demo. for us, at our local art club meeting a couple of months ago.

He mentioned that he had attended art school, but that they seemed more bent upon teaching students how to act, live, and behave "like an artist", than how to truly create art "like an artist". He felt he had basically learned art by himself, and his methods of realistic painting, glazing, etc. had been developed by him, simply because there was no one else who seemed to be capable of explaining to him how those techniques all actually worked. He employed certain techniques, simply because no one had ever told him that he couldn't.

I found this to be quite sad, but this guy did amazingly realistic work. And, he did it, because it simply represented the way he wanted his art to appear. I found absolutely nothing wrong with that philosophy, and am finding that his words stuck in my mind regarding the part about creating art the way you, as an artist want it to be. To me, that made pretty good sense. At my age, I'm not about to begin apologizing for my love of creating realistic paintings. This is "me", and I'm afraid that's the "baggage" I bring with me.

Here's the last, final result of my "Purple Iris", 16" x 20" oil on canvas. I have signed it. I do see a couple of little paint smears on the large leaf, behind the stem of the flower, but am fixing that as I speak.

Thank you, all, for your comments. You folks are all like family, and it is such a pleasure to let it "all hang out" for a WIP such as this. It takes a great deal of courage to post workups of a painting that is truly in progress, without knowing exactly how it's destined to turn out, but except for the first two or three WIP's on this one (which I had photographed in advance), they were performed in "real time", so to speak.

Thanks for lookin' in, and here's the final version, ready for varnishing and framing:

Bill

Marty C · #83 07-29-2005, 09:10 PM

Bill, this is jaw droppingly good.
I don't do these much these days, but:

ebineesey · #84 07-29-2005, 09:14 PM

wow bill, very realistic.
Good work.

Susan Little · #85 07-29-2005, 09:33 PM

I think this is really beautiful, Bill. I'm in awe of what you are able to do with glazes.

Susan

PapaWhiskey · #86 07-30-2005, 04:08 AM

Jon,
Thanks for the advice. Yes, I am new here, even though I joined in May, I have been coming here since the first of the year to read, read, and read some more.

Because I don't have my art studio finished in my shop yet, I will be painting in my den. I don't want to fill the house with fumes, so I purchased a Holbein Duo water soluble oils kit. I haven't started a painting yet, because I don't have a subject, and don't know what to do. I also wanted to wait until I finished Sean Dye's book "Painting With Water Soluble Oils", which I finished the other night. Any advice on how to choose what to paint?

I am also trying to figure out what some of the terms mean that I have seen here, such as "imprimaturna", and "glazing".

Anyway, thanks for the tips.

Kindest regards,
Patrick.

suzieq · #87 07-30-2005, 05:07 AM

Bill.. it is enough to make Georgia O'Keefe jeolous. Standing ovation!!
Suzie

Moosehead · #88 07-30-2005, 03:58 PM

Oh, Bill you ruined it with that last layer!

Obviously I'm kidding. It's incredible. The 3d effect is phenomenal.

Like Marty I showed this to my wife and she was pretty much blown away as well.

Congratulations and thanks again for sharing this with all of us.

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Because I don't have my art studio finished in my shop yet, I will be painting in my den. I don't want to fill the house with fumes, so I purchased a Holbein Duo water soluble oils kit. I haven't started a painting yet, because I don't have a subject, and don't know what to do. I also wanted to wait until I finished Sean Dye's book "Painting With Water Soluble Oils", which I finished the other night. Any advice on how to choose what to paint?

I am also trying to figure out what some of the terms mean that I have seen here, such as "imprimaturna", and "glazing".

Anyway, thanks for the tips.

Kindest regards,
Patrick.

Patrick-there's a glossary of art terms here somewhere. If I can suggest another very good technique book, by a writer who works only Duo's himself (although the book is good for all oil paintiing) it is "Brushwork Essentials" by Mark Christopher Weber. There are also numerous threads here on WS oils, including in the FAQ section. As to what to paint, it's entirely up to you. I've tried about every subject. I think a lot of folks suggest starting with a simple still lifes, as you can work from life if you want, under easy conditions, and work on technique, seeing light and shadow etc-but really I would just paint whatever you want to. I would suggest painting from observation though, and not imagination, whether it's a photo, live or a copy of a painting you like. You may want to start a thread on this as there are many experienced artists here who might have some good suggestions-I'm still quite new at it myself.

dcorc · #89 07-30-2005, 05:53 PM

Well, looks like I've arrived late at the party, again

What a spectacularly good painting, and spectacularly good WIP demonstration this is!

This is the sort of stuff this forum is about!

Dave

Rosic · #90 07-30-2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dcorc

Well, looks like I've arrived late at the party, again

What a spectacularly good painting, and spectacularly good WIP demonstration this is!

This is the sort of stuff this forum is about!

Dave

AMEN! This is a super painting and thread Bill!
Moving a copy to the Hall of Fame right now...

Bern

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