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Old 07-01-2006, 10:59 AM
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Bob, I'm so glad you've bumped this thread up. I've moved it to the Plein Air Hall of Fame...'Another one of Marc's great ideas.

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If you want something a little more durable and almost as light, you can use gator board instead of foam board. I think instead of paper on the sides, they use something stronger.

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GREAT JOB.
looks like another night of building again. just finished my modification of my
9"x13" mabef box into a pochade box with the help of brianc lemonhead and others. so i look forward to this project.
OH YEAH! I ALSO HAVE A DUCT POND IN MY BACKYARD
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Marc,

Thanks for a great idea. Had more 1/8" hardboard than 1/2" foamcore... Works amazing well!

A couple questions:

How do you cut the hardboard? I've tried with my utility knives but it's difficult and dangerous. With a saw I never cut straight.

The weather here in Paris is finally getting nice and I'm eager to get out and paint. I've decided this summer I'm going to paint in oils instead of my usual acrylics. I paint oils with a knife and it's usually quite thick, which brings me to question #2:

If you paint up to the edges, don't they get messed up by the wood strips? Should I learn to leave a small edge around the painting?

Thanks to all for the great comments. Since the American sized panel holders don't work for French sizes, I'm going to try to build my own.

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A couple questions:

How do you cut the hardboard? I've tried with my utility knives but it's difficult and dangerous. With a saw I never cut straight.

The weather here in Paris is finally getting nice and I'm eager to get out and paint. I've decided this summer I'm going to paint in oils instead of my usual acrylics. I paint oils with a knife and it's usually quite thick, which brings me to question #2:

If you paint up to the edges, don't they get messed up by the wood strips? Should I learn to leave a small edge around the painting?

Thanks to all for the great comments. Since the American sized panel holders don't work for French sizes, I'm going to try to build my own.

-Michael

Hi Michael,

The foamcore idea might be better for you. I used a table saw to cut the hardboard.

Yes, the edges could get messed up. I paint on 1/8" panel and left about 3/8" space. I could get two panels in there back to back. If I insert just one the edges seem to be not messed up. With my 12x16' carrier I tape gessoed canvas, up to 11x14", to a panel and the edges are well clear. Actually I've been using "removeable plastic adhesive" lately...like a sticky plastic clay product...one pinch on each corner. If the painting is a keeper you can mount and frame it.

Another way to think of it: Once framed the edges can not be seen so why worry?

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Another way to think of it: Once framed the edges can not be seen so why worry?

Bob

As long as the widths of the edges of the frame & the carrier are the same then I agree!
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A couple questions:

How do you cut the hardboard? I've tried with my utility knives but it's difficult and dangerous. With a saw I never cut straight.

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Michael. Cutting hardboard with a utility knife takes patience, and a metal straight edge, like a metal ruler or square. I put a scrap piece of wood underneath, line up my heavy duty carpeters square (ruler) on the piece I want to cut, then carefully pull the knife along the ruler. You must press hard and cut several times to get through.

The two advantages of the knife: you don't need a table saw, and it cuts without a kerf. If you use a saw, it removes a small space of wood where the saw blade travels. This is often 1/8". Over the space of many canvasses cut from a large piece of wood, this causes spacing problems, and you lose a canvas or two.

Personally, I use a mix. I cut a 4x8' sheet into 9", 10", and 12" strips on the saw. Then I use a blade to cut the 48" strip into exact sizes with a blade. For example, that 9" strip becomes 4 exact 12" pieces. Using a saw for the same piece would leave each piece an 1/8" short, which might cause problems in a frame.
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Fabulous idea - I made one for myself today, and will be taking it with me to paint on Monhegan Island, Maine next week.
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another option

Heres something that you can do that might save you a lot of money and allow you to make a lot of paintings in a very efficient manner.

1. decide how big you want to work.
2. go out and buy or make a number of canvas stretchers that are about 3 inches taller and wider than that size. These can be made of the cheapest canvas and they can be left unprimed. I would suggest fredrick's stretchers and cheap unprimed cotton canvas.
3. buy some nice, primed linen canvas, or prime your own if you're into that. Cut the peices so that they are the same size as your canvas stretchers. Then use masking tape to tape off the area you want to work in leaving about a 1-1/2 inch border all the way around.
4. using about 8 thumbtacks, tack your painting canvases on top of the cheap canvas. Now stack your stretchers and bind them together. When you have finished painting, re-stack them. the painting won't touch the back of the other paintings. You will find that you can just hang the paintings up to dry by tacking them up somewhere at home. If you like one, stretch and frame it. If you don't like it, don't stretch it.
5. reuse the stretchers again and again.

I have been using this method all season.
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Just got your response. Another great idea. I used my wet-paint carrier all summer, and everyone thought it was terrific.
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Re: Wet Panel Carrier cheap and fast to assemble...

Had to bring this back out of the cupboard to say - I MADE ONE!
EASY, EASY, EASY!
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Re: Wet Panel Carrier cheap and fast to assemble...

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If you want something a little more durable and almost as light, you can use gator board instead of foam board.

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Hi Don,
Yes I think that is a great suggestion of yours. I have had a lot of success with this gatorboard material. It is much less prone to bending than foamcore, and does not warp in the same way as do other lightweight materials such as mahogany plywood, luan (a tradename), other thin plywoods, or mdf (medium density fibreboard). All of the latter warp after time when they get wet.

I have made about a dozen of these gatoboard drying boxes in different sizes, as well as some palette carriers and they are still holding up after 6 years of fairly heavy use. I also dismantle them when flying and reassemble them on site (using duct tape of course!).

Here are the designs for the boxes I use:

(I settled on this design in the end after a lot of experiments because it contains the maximum number of panels in the minimum volume).

I hope these plans are useful for everyone,
all the best...
Barry

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Barry,

It was from reading your Virtual Art Academy material that I learned about using the Gaterboard. I didn't think it would be right for me to share the section about making it. It is very nice of you to share it here on WC.

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