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Old 07-07-2005, 06:13 PM
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Back in April when I had my first, and probably only <gg> gallery opening, http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267688 there was a painting which sold immediately -- before I had even arrived to the place. A person was waiting there with a check. It was one of those paintings that took me about 2 hours to do, and I really only put it in the show to take up more space. It was a small (8 x 10) acrylic on Yupo. It was absolutely nothing that blew my hair back.




However, I was shocked at the amount of positive response I got for it, and one person said she wanted me to paint another one just like it only in blues/purples/whites/lilacs, and BIG. She and her husband own an Optical store in town and have fitted my entire family with glasses for the last 30 years. If I had a dollar for everytime someone said they wanted me to paint something for them I would be quite wealthy by now. Of course, most people never contact me again. Just so happened that I had to get my Rx changed in the old specs to I went into the shop yesterday. Elaine asked how her painting was coming along... gulp... she was really serious!! I hadn't even thought about doing the painting, let alone even start on it!

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I have now just started <gg> a full sheet Coneflower in Cloisonne in the cool tones. I have approached this very differently than anything I've painted before. The only thing similar so far is that I sketched it out with fluid acrylic in an oiler boiler. Instead of metallic gold, I used cobalt teal. I then poured many thin coats of various phthalo blues/FUB/ and Dioxanine Purple. The ridges from the cloisonne showed through so I was able to go back in and start to bring out my 'lights' with washes of gesso. One thing I love about using acylics is that one can work on a toned canvas from dark to light. I am applying the same principle to the watercolor paper by first 'toning' it dark and working out to the lights with the acrylic watercolor.. I will also go back in and add many darks, but I wanted an overall medium value range to start with.

Here are a couple of photos. Please keep in mind that because they are in the blue/purple range the color is all off with my digi cam. This is a very preliminary stage. There is no reference photo... this posies come directly from my head. (this explains a lot... LOL!!)



A close-up.



Last night I fiddled around a bit on a scrap piece to get some feel for color saturation, granulation, etc.



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Old 07-07-2005, 06:31 PM
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WOW....this is going to be fantastic....will be watching.
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Very nice work and a fabulous amount of possibilities. Keep painting and let us see what you do, please.
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SUPER!! You do SUCH good work.
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Old 07-07-2005, 06:40 PM
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Hey Deb, I'm lovin' this one.....love the look of cloisonne on porcelain also....have a friend in Amarillo that does this. She uses 24k gold to outline the flowers though.

What are you using for the gold outline?

This is very interesting!!! I'm here for the duration. Waiting for the finish!!!
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Deb you "do" such beautiful work !!!
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Wow... so you did put that swatch of my hair to good use when I sent it... lol... kidding... just kidding...

I'm already in love with this... the busy composition is right up my alley... the purples will be a beautifully rich background for the coneflowers... those centres are to die for...

I can't wait to see where you take this next...

Really glad that you're painting again, dear friend... your talent is inspirational to all of us!!!
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This is totally new to me. I've never seen this done before. I'll be watching and learning.

Love both of these.
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Golly, darn, and gee whiz... I love my WC friends. You ALL make me feel so good about my work. I look at what I do and just see BUTT, BUTT, BUTT.

Char, g/f, as you know, after my one and only gallery opening (LOL !!), I went into a major frump and couldn't paint to save my soul. My dear friend and art professor told me it was not unusual to suffer from a post traumatic stress syndrome type of situation after having such a 'high'. If that is what is was, I had a bad case of it. I still have absolutely no confidence, and pretty much expect to mess this up before it is all said and done, but I'm getting back into the saddle. Char, you also brought up the 'center's of the fleurs which is a good thing. One of the reasons I'm bringing out the 'whites' with gesso is so I can make some of them dark again. The centers being the main target. The center I have done on the scratch sheet is what I'm aiming for. I didn't want to fiddle with masking fluid, and since I have no fear of using gesso over darks I decided to just throw caution to the wind and pour the whole tham ding. I'll bring the centers back to white to put in the darker colors and yellow. I didn't want to put yellow over the blue/purple, so I had to bring it back to white. Clear as mud? (ps. thanks for the lock of hair... I'm getting a lot of mileage out of it )

Celeste, the cloisonne is Golden fluid acrylic which I put into a little squirt bottle thingy. (those who paint on glass use them). Normally, with my cloisonne look I will use the Light Gold (fine) Irridescent.





For the coneflower painting I used Cobalt Teal. My main objective was to be able to see where I wanted to paint after I had 'toned' the paper.

Bairam, this is the first time I have toned watercolor paper and worked backwards. It may work famously, or completely backfire. With heavy bodied acrylics I no longer work on a white canvas as I find that a toned canvas produces a much richer painting. I coat my canvases with Venetian Red or Burnt Sienna gesso.

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Re: ~ Coneflower in Cloisonne ~

Oh Deb...I ABSOLUTELY LOVE this kind of painting and you do them so well. I'll be waiting for the progress on this and watching until the finish...
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This is a butterfly painted on Porcelain by Dorothy from Australia

She used lusters, structure paste and real gold painted on top of the raised work. This was painted on a round plate it seems in her photo.

It's beautiful.





I LOVE the image of the dog and flowers in cloisonne. This is fabulous Deb. I can see where this would be very successful at a gallery.

Waiting for your next steps whenever you get some time.....don't hurry....I'll be here waiting patiently.
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Celeste, Dorothy's work is SUPERB!!! I also love cloisonne, and would covet this plate Thank you so much for sharing it!

I came about this cloisonne technique by accident when I was doing the Basenji (Chaminade in Cloisonne). I would like to do more of it, but it's really time consuming, and a bit too tight for my comfort zone. However, it is therapeutic because it's calming in a way.

I'm having a dickens of a time getting the color correct on this painting. It is not this blue, but more in the violet/lilac range. No matter what I do to the white balance on my camera it is not showing true to color.

Char, this is how the centers will look when I get finished. The camera doesn't pick up the shimmer of the copper. The centers are done in Diox. Purple/Dairlylide Yellow (the two allowed to mix on their own make a rock'in rich brown). I dropped the copper in for excitment. (are we having fun yet? ) I have also started work on the lower right flower. You can see some heavier layers of <shhhh...> white. The dark part under the petals are not that dark nor that brown IRL.





So far, working on this toned paper is pretty cool.

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Deb: I have already commented on this thread over in the acrylic forum. It is (as previously stated) looking great. Thank you for sharing your journey through this process with us all
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Deb: This is GREAT! Keep posting!

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Wow, Deb, this is going to be fantastic! It already looks superb in this early stage

I always enjoy your bright and colourful paintings. you do such beautiful and great work, count me in on your fanclub

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