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09-17-2004, 01:19 AM
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Forest Path WIP
MY IMAGE(S):
GENERAL INFORMATION:
Title: Forest Path WIP
Year Created: 2004
Medium: Acrylic
Surface: Canvas
Dimension: 12x16 inches
Allow digital alterations?: Yes!
MY COMMENTS:
I’m working from a black and white photo. The red line shows how much of the photo I’m using. I’m trying to bring the path from lower left to past center on the right where the sunshine hits the path before it moves back to the left.
Palette; cad yellow deep, yellow ochre, prussian blue, cobalt blue, raw sienna, burnt umber, raw umber, ivory black, titanium white.
MY QUESTIONS FOR THE GROUP:
Do you think the composition is working? Are the colors working? I think I need to add a tree trunk or a tree or something to the lower right side.
Any C&c wlcome.
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Last edited by A Few Pigments : 09-17-2004 at 01:22 AM.
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09-17-2004, 03:15 AM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
Looks good as far as I can see especially at this stage. Be careful the path doesn't reach for heaven though ..... A tree or bush on the bottom right ? I'd go for it !
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09-17-2004, 05:32 AM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
Good shapes all over to be found in the photograph.
I myself would crop the photo a tad bit higher, or in the painting bring the grassy area to the left some moer towards the lower left corner.
Paint on and have fun. Play!
Caroline 
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09-17-2004, 07:49 AM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
Bruce, I follow this one with interest. Nice bold brush. As Gilberte says the perspective on the path is difficult. There seems to be a natural hump, plus uneven width shown in the original reference. I think the left side of the path in the painting is the biggest problem. Maybe the direction of some of the brushstrokes in the path give it the going up appearance as well.
Mikey
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09-17-2004, 02:59 PM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
Thank you Gilberte, Caroline and Mikey for your comments.  They are very helpful. I’ll carry on with this and try to get it right.
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09-20-2004, 04:56 AM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
This is the first landscape I’ve done since high school and it’s reminding me why I started painting still lifes. I painted the part of the path in yellow where I want the sunlight to hit and added some detail to the path. I still have to paint the trees in the background and the sunlight filtering down betwixt them onto the road where the yellow patch is. It’s at times like this I wish I knew how to paint.

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09-20-2004, 05:15 AM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
Painting is all about learning .. what to do , what not to do. I paint alla prima so I would simply block in the shapes with a home color value and then further refine them by adding different values to enhance the light, middle, darks of the objects. If you are near a library, the book Filling Your Oil Paintings With Light by Kevin Macpherson is great ..
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09-20-2004, 05:24 AM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
Wayne of course has said it. However, I reminded of somebody who was speaking to Henry Moore. He said Henry somebody's just written this book telling how you do your work. Henry Moore replied, don't show it me, if I find out how I do it, I wont be able.
Mikey
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09-20-2004, 05:51 AM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
Mikey, Henry Moore was like that. I wonder what he’d be doing if he was around today. I was watching a tape tonight about the impressionists and found out that toward the end of Renoir’s life he felt he didn’t know how to draw and he wasn’t happy with any of his paintings. He wanted to work in a more realistic style. He felt his impressionism paintings concentrated too much on the effects of light and not enough on composition. It seems no matter what an artist is doing at the moment or how much he’s achieved he’s never happy. So, I guess I fit right in.
Wayne I’ll look for the book but my town has such a small library their last expansion project involved putting up a second shelf, and they didn’t have enough books to fill it...lol
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09-20-2004, 08:28 AM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
Mikey .. there is a lot of truth to the matter but if you get a few tricks from someone they will only help. The biggest trick is to never try to paint like anyone else because if you do you other than try to paint to the best of your ability you are doomed to misery. To me it's knowing the elements of what makes a painting, the elements of how color works, and then applying it in a fashion that suits your mentality. Each person must paint in a manner that is suitable to themselves.
Bruce .. LOL .. have them order it in. It might only take a few months. 
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09-20-2004, 06:31 PM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
Just my uneducated guess Wayne, but I think our Henry knew exactly what he was about. He didn't appreciate the idea of some smart alec telling him, and possibly upsetting his equilibrium.
One of our towns leading lady artists stopped to chat with me in the street, and when I told her what a good teacher I had she put it quite bluntly, there comes a time when the old ties have to be severed. I have to find my own way this Autumn. I'm looking for other ways to learn.
Hi Bruce  Will Bourguerau help you? Maybe copying helps to train our eye to be more accurate.
Mikey
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09-20-2004, 10:57 PM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
Hi Mikey,
I learned from Anders Zorn to make my brushstrokes decisively. Heaven only knows what I’ll learn from Bourguerau. The only thing I’ve learned from Bourguerau so far is if one wants a painting to look photo realistic glazing is good to do. Glazing is the easy way to achieve photo-realism. But I’ve had photography as a hobby since I was 8 and I’m burned out on photo realistic images. I find them very boring now. I’d rather celebrate the inherent beauty of paint than try to pretend I’m just a camera or a copy machine. They say that the nature of life is change. If we slavishly keep painting the way the old masters did we find ourselves fighting against the nature of life and our own nature as creative individuals.
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09-26-2004, 08:26 AM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
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Originally Posted by A Few Pigments
. . .Wayne I’ll look for the book but my town has such a small library their last expansion project involved putting up a second shelf, and they didn’t have enough books to fill it...lol
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hahaha! Thanks for brightening my day with that little library comment!
I think your painting is coming along and yes, you can do landscapes...it has just taken you out of your comfort zone and you are unsure. But I love the colors and if you can do still lifes (yikes on my part) you can do this!
Good luck.
Terry
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09-26-2004, 08:53 AM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
Thank you Terry. I'm not sure I can do still lifes, have you seen mine? lol Really though, life took me out of my comfort zone, and I haven't been the same since. Thank you for your comments.
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09-26-2004, 11:06 AM
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Re: Forest Path WIP
I know what you mean about the comfort zone being gone. My was abruptly taken from me 18 years ago...since then - minor crumbles. But that's life, in fact, no guarantee of a "comfort" zone.
I've adjusted (mainly my attitude), I've survived (not always pretty but I did) and now I smile more, say "thank you" more (and mean it), try to do something good for me (paint, express myself, enjoy a sunset, play with my animals, etc) every day and just thank whoever or whatever that I wake up another day and can see and hear and go forward to the next challenge!
I went to the Plaza Art Festival (Kansas City) yesterday. Gives me faith in my abilities - so many different expressions. And once again confirmed there is no "right or wrong" - just our individuality coming through!
Keep on - you'll find what suits you.
Terry
Going to go try to find some of your still lifes now!
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