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04-04-2004, 10:19 PM
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Eagle
Hi. Not to sure if I want to post this, but I said Iwould good or bad.
This is an eagle that I did on my mom's boyfriend computer room wall.
Let me say my problems yesterday before I even started painting this.
Bought a compressure and it's junk I knew I shouldn't of got it. Oh well.
Then well you will be able to tell what my problems were with this Eagle.
One thing is for sure , and I should of known better to prime the wall before
going this. Because my patches keep coming though the paint.
I did mask the eagle ,and all in all for my second try at this It came out ok.
I know you will see, but how do you spray a large area and get an even coat.
I'm not getting this part at all. Put on a little coats ,but some are getting more paint than others? Please help with this. Thanks
Oh, the rest of the wall will be done tomorrow.
Shane
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04-05-2004, 02:11 AM
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Re: Eagle
hey shane...a pretty good start...
you should not try to paint the wall all the way with the airbrush...
the background you can do with a normal brush and the detail work and things like the eagle you can do with the airbrush...
and if you want to do the background as well with the airbrush you must take a bigger one with a bigger nozzle....like a number 6 or 8..
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04-05-2004, 06:54 AM
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Re: Eagle
Yup, Yup, what Henk said. You can kick up the air, pull the needle way back and stand far away but that will only help a little.
Nice job so far expecially for only your second attempt. Keep us posted.
Penny
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04-05-2004, 11:50 AM
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Re: Eagle
Lookin' good Shane!
I see what you mean about priming the wall.
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04-05-2004, 07:30 PM
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Re: Eagle
Thanks everyone,
Well I'm sorry if I miss lead you. I'm not painting the wall with my AB. I brushed and rolled it.
I was asking about how the wings and body turn'd out. Notice how in the middle of the wingd there is a heavy coat of paint. For some reason when trying to fill in the wings I couldn't blend it in. I would have heavy and lite
spot. I'm wondering if it is the createx paint I was using or if it is me that isn't doing something right. Thanks.
Shane
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04-05-2004, 08:49 PM
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Re: Eagle
Relax, it's the nature of the beast. Your paint was laid heavier in that area for one, the other that sometimes happens and it can be frustrating at first is the wet look where the line goes and the dryness that outlines it. I'm telling you to relax because once you clear this it all goes away. As far as the wings go, they need more detail. I'll send you a good ref later tonight, if you don't have it by morning e-me.
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04-05-2004, 09:35 PM
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Re: Eagle
Penny here is the ref. pic. There isn't a whole lot of detail in this one. I did try
but I kept messing it up. So this is how he wanted it. Kept getting water in the line and the white I was ude is junk wouldn't spray unless I had it at 1000
psi. haha. So your saying to sprat a clear over this? Would a satin poyl. work?
would it leave the wall shinny in the middle? You know I was talking to him about this today if I spray a clear over this if it would make a diff.
Thanks Penny for the eagles. Did they just add these I don't remember seeing these?
Shane
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04-05-2004, 09:57 PM
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Re: Eagle
they change them all the time, you have to check back often, no these are older. Satin clear will work.
Clean out your airbrush good, drain the water from the tank, thin the paints down a bit and remove the end cap from the nozzle so you are spraying off the tip of the needle (be careful not to touch the needle to the wall) You might want to try straining your paints too.
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04-07-2004, 12:03 AM
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Re: Eagle
Hey, hinddee29,
I agree that it looks as if you are spraying too much paint per pass. Thinner paint and more passes can add some more control (and takes longer). Also, to get a perfectly even shade, you'd need to premix the color to the shade so you are unable to accidentally overshoot the mark. Else, it's going to look uneven to the degree you can control (or not) the coverage. So, even coverage means opaque. Transparents will not help there, I don't think.
I think you have a great start.
Keep us posted!!!
Tim
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04-07-2004, 01:32 AM
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Re: Eagle
Hi Shane! How big is the painting? I wish I could see it in real life----then I could tell better what's what. It's looking good though! I'm just not sure how to help tell you what to do w/o actually seeing it. Is the color more like the first or second pic?
~Maryl
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04-07-2004, 02:01 AM
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Re: Eagle
Hi Shane, I did the same thing on the 1st wall mural I did. The mistake I made was that I was trying to get a certain area darker ( when I was tired and should have given up for the night ) so I just kept spraying and wound up with that glossed over look in that area. When the light hits at a certain angle the light is reflected off it and things really look weird  ! the trick is to spray thin coats and let them dry before hitting that area again. If things look wet where you're spraying then you're throwing too much paint or you need to back the distance of the airbrush off from the piece. Also, you don't need to prime the wall, just latex paint will do. It has to cover all the patches because they are a flat finish and the rest of the wall was probaly semi-gloss. walls can be tricky, but yours is looking good, stay with it. 
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04-07-2004, 06:09 AM
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Re: Eagle
Thanks Maryl, Tim, and Kevin,
This whole painting was done with trans. except for the white.
Maryl I would say it 3 or 4 ft. x 2 something. Well there you have it I
was putting on too much paint at one time. Now that I think about it
the pressure was set to high also, but I couldn't help that. I need new paint.
I finished painting wall, bt have not cleared over it yet. I does look a little better with the wall all painted now.
Maryl I wish you where there to. Beleave it or not thats is what I was thinking
when doing this. I'll have to make something up and come over next week and
have you see who I'm trying to AB. Well gotta go to work. Thanks again.
Shane
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04-07-2004, 11:12 AM
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Re: Eagle
Shane, I think this looks great for your first crack at it! I have run into the same problem when using transparent, I try to get it as dark as I need it and end up with a bright glossy appearance that would not blend well. It appeared muddy. I would like to see a final photo after you clear it!
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04-07-2004, 05:19 PM
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Re: Eagle
Thanks Sam, Well here is the finished painting. I just cleared it to day.
Penny thank you so much. I wasn't going to clear it, but with what you had said I went ahead and did it. It look 100 % better I think and now I am really happy with it. I thought that if I cleared it, it would make the shinnier parts even more shinny. Learned something new. How do you think it looks now?
Shane
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04-07-2004, 10:54 PM
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Re: Eagle
Hinddee29,
I see a few things that look odd but I'm not sure if they look that way in person but is the ring of darker blue the problem you had with getting a smooth color? I can see a dark spot on his/her wing too. But other than that, it looks really good! I haven't got the nerve to paint anything on someone's walls!
Seems as if you have the idea so run with it! Leech as much info/technique from Maryl as she'll let you! hahahahhahahaha I wish I had a live person to pal with here but I live in West Memphis, Arkansas which is about as cosmopolitan as Mayberry RFD. Thank ARPA for the Internet! 1969 was a very good year.
Tim
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