Carravagio's Baccus

guillot · #1 02-29-2004, 01:44 AM

Just wanted to share my progress with you guys and gals on the Master of the Month for February (oils forum) that I've been working on. I'm learning a lot from his probable working sequence. Initial wash (monochrome) was with burnt umber and turps. Went back over the skin areas with opaque grays, modeling them into the shadow areas (will go back over this when dry with velaturas of flesh tints). While I'm waiting for that to dry - I'm working on building up the glazes. So much fun

Last pic is kinda bad (it's night here).

Tina

arlene · #2 02-29-2004, 02:58 AM

Tina if i recall correctly Jazz in the cp forum picked this same picture for her master's project. In the cp forum everyone is to copy a small portion of a master's painting in cp. Our second step is to then do their own drawing in the same technique but using their own composition.

Looks like you're off to a good start.

guillot · #3 02-29-2004, 03:30 AM

Hi Arlene, are you a night owl too?

I took a nap earlier, so I'm kind of awake right now.

We're having a lot of fun with these in the oils forum. We already have a schedule put together that everyone in the forum participated in deciding on a pool of "masters" to copy from. I'm learning so much from it. January's was a Zorn Copy (whew! muy dificul) I'll post it below with an update on this one (she look's a bit gargoylish

but I tried

) But then I found out that Carravagio is difficult too - but I'm seeing some improvement in my work and I think that's what counts. I would imagine copying in CP would be difficult to do. We chose oil Masters specifically.

Anyone interested in participating that paints in oils - please visit. March's is up, and the schedule is posted here:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147797

March's MOM is here:

http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170814

We're learning a lot from these.

So, here is the Zorn I did in January, (just never could get her face right):

And here is an update on Carravagio. I've been working on some of the glazes, building up the colors. I really love this process. I think this picture is better.

Thanks,
Tina

Olan · #4 02-29-2004, 01:10 PM

Good for you Tina. Carravaggio is a favorite of mine. Tho I think I would have chosen a different one, something a little bit simpler.

guillot · #5 02-29-2004, 01:46 PM

Hi Olan, how are you? Yes, something a bit simpler I think would've been nice - this one is a lot to complete within a month, especially since FEB is a short month. But no one complained - and everyone had a choice to. Quite a few folks did crops, focusing on areas that interested them the most. Sometimes (most of the time) I bite off more than I can chew

I'm a huge admirer of Carravagio!!

Here's an update taken outside. (Apologize for the glare top left) I've worked in glazes of the darker greens, reds, and yellows. So far so good - I think. Still waiting for the grays to dry for the skin tints.

Any comments helpful.

Tina

Classical Vince · #6 02-29-2004, 06:22 PM

Comin right along! Whew, that Zorn probably was a great exercise in looseness; his brushwork is amazing. Nice job on the copy.

Its been inspiring to see everyones mastercopies here in the forum.

guillot · #7 03-01-2004, 07:58 AM

Hi Vince

Yes, the Zorn was quite an exercise in looseness!! Really made one stop to think about the stroke before it was laid. Thank you for the comments. I believe her face was the hardest portion of the painting!! Really hard to get that angle.

I'm enjoying doing these, and I'm learning a lot from them. I can see lots of improvement in my work. It's nice to attempt to get into the mind of the master - many questions arise during the thinking process.

Thanks again,
Tina

guillot · #8 03-03-2004, 06:40 PM

I was hoping to finished by today, but, not quite. I've worked in some more colors in the foreground, his hair, leaves and such, the wine, etc. And, I've applied one velatura of Yellow Ochre + French Vermillion and medium over his arms, hands, chest and face. I'm amazed at what just one coat will do

I had a couple of spots that went weird on me

but I still have a few coats of glazing to do with the skin tones anyway and correct them. Still have to apply some reds, and shadow tones, and final highlights. Maybe I'll be finished by this weekend ......... hopefully anyway......

What do you guys think?

Tina

bjs0704 · #9 03-03-2004, 07:15 PM

Tina - Good Job!

I have been wanting to try this exercise, but a little bit afraid. It looks great!

Barb Solomon

guillot · #10 03-03-2004, 10:03 PM

Hi barb - thank you! I was afraid too

This is my first glass - first apple - first wine - so I had many hurdles to get over, but I've learned a lot from this. You should come participate - nothing to be afraid of

here's another update - I think one more sitting will do it. I have a problem with the area under his neck that's bothering me too.

Thanks,
Tina

Biki · #11 03-04-2004, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjs0704

Tina - Good Job!

I have been wanting to try this exercise, but a little bit afraid. It looks great!

Barb Solomon

Me too Barb. Especially the Zorn. Paint loose? - who moi?
i just wouldn't know how.!!

Tina. I am SO impressed. I think you have done marvellously in both.

guillot · #12 03-04-2004, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biki

Me too Barb. Especially the Zorn. Paint loose? - who moi?
i just wouldn't know how.!!

Tina. I am SO impressed. I think you have done marvellously in both.

hi Biki,

Paint loose? Me either!!! At least I have a better idea now about painting looser. I've ALWAYS painted on the "tight" side. I'm having fun learning these different techniques and methods, and I'm learning more about color, values and tones. So worth it for me! Thank you for the nice comments!!

Tina

bjs0704 · #13 03-06-2004, 09:42 PM

It seems to me that I once read that "tight" vs. "loose" was something that was just natural to a person - part of their "handwriting". That particular author thought that it was wrong to go to far against whatever came natural to a person. ( I am not sure if this is actually true, but I find it an interesting idea.)

Now, trying to imitate a painter in order to make a copy can be such a great exercise! I have found so many times things that I wouldn't have done on my own - color ideas and composition.

Barb Solomon

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