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Old 01-15-2004, 04:34 AM
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Question Paynes Grey

How does one mix Paynes Grey??????

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Re: Paynes Grey

JJ. I did an |Advanced search on Paynes Grey Gray in Watercolour Forum and found this:- thread = favourite greys?

Lise posted.......There are so many interesting combinations!! You might like to try some of my favourites:
*cadmium orange + ultramarine blue
*winsor violet + thalo green -> a wonderful gray a lot like Payne's grey
*thalo blue + light red
*thalo blue plus any of the earthy browns eg burnt umber, burnt sienna, raw umber
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JJ. I did an |Advanced search on Paynes Grey Gray in Watercolour Forum and found this:- thread = favourite greys?

Lise posted.......There are so many interesting combinations!! You might like to try some of my favourites:
*cadmium orange + ultramarine blue
*winsor violet + thalo green -> a wonderful gray a lot like Payne's grey
*thalo blue + light red
*thalo blue plus any of the earthy browns eg burnt umber, burnt sienna, raw umber

Jaytee you are wonderful

When I put in paynes grey i just got peoples paintings

I forgot about the other spelling

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Re: Paynes Grey

I'm sure I saw something here that said Paynes grey can be mixed using FUB and burnt sienna, with varying amounts of each producing lovely cool and warm greys.

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Re: Paynes Grey

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"Another convenience mixture often used as a shadow color is payne's gray, shown here in both the M. Graham and Winsor & Newton versions. Payne's gray is the second of three traditional watercolorists' shadow colors (along with brownish sepia and purplish neutral tint). It has a very dull, dark bluish cast, closer to a neutral dark gray than indigo"

PBk6+PB29 soot from lamp burned petroleum or wax + ultramarine blue payne's gray M. Graham

PB15+PBk6+PV19 phthalocyanine blue + lamp burned petroleum or wax + quinacridone violet payne's gray Winsor & Newton

PBk7+PB29 lamp black + sodium aluminum sulfosilicate payne's gray Rowney Artists

W/N Comp sheet

465 Payne’s Gray
1 A II O St
Copper phthalocyanine PB15
Quinacridone PV19
Carbon black PBk6

322 Indigo
1 A II O St
Carbon black PBk6
Quinacridone PV19
Copper phthalocyanine PB15

So W/N indigo is the same mixture, so you will have to play to get the gray and not the blue.
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Re: Paynes Grey

Thank you Ruth and Neeman...........
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Re: Paynes Grey

I'm seconding Ruth, I have my high school kids mix ub and bs and it works really well. Another really nice grey is made with wv and v, try both.

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Re: Paynes Grey

Hi Sue.....

wv + windsor violet Yes??????? don't have that

v = what?????????
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I'm sure I saw something here that said Paynes grey can be mixed using FUB and burnt sienna, with varying amounts of each producing lovely cool and warm greys.

Ruth

I mentioned this combination (FUB + BS) once, as I'm sure others have. The other combos look interesting - I'll have to try them.
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JJ, any purple and green, but v is viridian ....

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Re: Paynes Grey

Sue.....I knew that V was viridian and not violet (not)

Thank you ......

Some good choices to play around with here
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