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Old 10-21-2003, 10:13 AM
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Question How do you organize your palette?

I read many books recommend that I should take the wrap off the new pastels and break them into half. I intend to do so now.

Here come my next question how should I organize those unlabled pastels. May I get idea from you about your way(s) of handling your palette with hundreds of naked pastels?

Thanks for sharing it to me.
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Old 10-21-2003, 11:04 AM
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Hi Ead, I have heard of different ways and any of them I guess are fine as long as you understand your set up. I, for one, am just starting and my palette at this moment is a mess!

You can divide your colors by tone, value, or temperature. Tone being by the lightness or darkness, value by strength of color, or temperature being whether cool or warm. If I blundered here, let me know. I have read a lot of stickys this week and may get my wires crossed but that is how I understand it so far.

I suppose it is how you use your color is how you may determine your set up. I will watch this thread to see some more responses to get ideas as they come. Thanks for posting a great question.

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Old 10-21-2003, 11:48 AM
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I'm afraid I'd be a very bad example to follow. I keep all of my pastels in plastic drawers by color. I yank out what I think I will use for a particular painting and throw them all down on a towel in front of me. If I find I need more shades, I go back into the drawer and pull it out also. I like sitting the floor while I'm painting and our german shepard likes to carry off my pastels if he thinks I'm neglecting him, so I can also use the towel to cover them up. I have a large oak easel, which I never use. And a cheap telescoping watercolor easel which is where you'll find me.


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Old 10-21-2003, 12:28 PM
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I do about the same as Morgie- I kinda look and lay out what it is I think I'll need, I have to or else I'm worse than a kid in a candy store and try to use all the colours at once. Then I set them up in a "cool/warm" arrangement, but I'm not all that disciplined, and very soon I'm searching through 15 sticks for "that light lavender- where is that? I just used it...."

I'll peel 'em, but I hate breaking them. Just seems kinda sacreligious....
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Old 10-21-2003, 12:52 PM
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Hi there,


Here's a photo of my portable set that I carry around most of the time - for class, hiring models, in the field, etc.

I immediately remove the wrapper, break them into thirds, and group them by color and value (for the most part). You'll see lots of discrepancies in this photo.

For this particular box, I keep the dark colors towards the hinge (the bottom of the box as I'm carrying it) - so the dark dust doesn't fall all over the light colors.

Oh - I keep my light neutrals together too.

Barb (this may change next year - it depends what works best for me at the time I'm painting)


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I take the labels off, then make a color swatch, label it with make/name/number to make it easier to get replacements. I store them in their original boxes (open stock in another container) I break mine and so when I clean up after a painting it is easy to match it back to the original place in the right box. While painting I use a box with plastic dividers to keep the 'current' pastels, and if they get dirty, it is best to clean them before storing away. I put everything away, before I start a new painting...
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:32 PM
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By color, in rainbow order, and by value. Tell you more when I get a chance but maybe this will help...

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I work plein air almost all the time with my pastels. Time is one of the most important elements when working on location because of the constant light changes! Like Deborah, I tend to sort by color/value.

My lightest lights on the upper left, middle tones range across the center, lower left to upper right, and darkest values/colors in the lower right diagonal corner.

This makes it much faster picking up a color because...my hand will move to the area of value as my eye is discerning it in the landscape. It takes some time working with the pastels to develop this relationship between the palette/the hand/and the eye, but it does happen. If my pastels were all in a jumble, it would take me much too long to sort them out with the eye and grab the right one...and by then, I'd also lose what my eye had recorded! Sort of like a balancing act! I'm always looking for new ways to cut down on the use of my time in the painting process...so that I can concentrate more on the subject!

I don't pick out colors and set them aside....I like to see all the colors at once. The eye is so discerning that you can pick a color in a landscape....then immediately scan all your colors and the eye will 'match' the color/value.

I once ask..."how do you find the four-leaf clovers so easily?" and the reply was "because I only look for them...they stand out from all the others!" In the same way, I look for the color that stands out from all the others. Sorting my pastels into lights to darks, warm to cool, just simplifies the search.

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Old 10-22-2003, 10:32 AM
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Wow!!! look at all the pretty colours!! broke in 3rds!!!
I cried when I broke a little peice off the end of each of mine!!! u mean I have to break them more!!!!!

I'm so knew I still have them in little boxes they came in LOL
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Old 10-22-2003, 01:28 PM
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I break my pastels up right away and use the sides of them to work - rather than the ends - unless it requires a sharp edge for a line.

Breaking them up is so much fun!!! Dusty - dirty and messy - but fun!!!

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I also use the sides of mine way more than the tips, that is why I break mine too
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Unisons too?

For some reason, although I have lots of broken pastels, I have always kept the Unisons intact, which now that I think about it, means that I can't use all those wonderful colors if I want to use the side of the pastel . . .

So, looking at BNoonan's picture, I don't think I can see see any Unison sized sticks, and Deborah's has a Unison with its label on.

Just want to see if others have bravely gone before in breaking their Unisons before I try it (I'm a chicken!)
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Question Barb's Box

Barb?? Did you make that box?? what is the insert made out of??
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Hi there,
I've only purchased one unison pastel and I did break it up - it broke my heart because it's so soft and I knew there were goign to be unused fragments.... however... I really like using the side of the pastel.

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Sorry - we cross posted.

The box is great! It came from an art store in Wyoming that was phasing out it's pastels from stock (found out about it through WC and made some great purchases that way).

There's no manufacturer name on the box but it looks like just an empty wooden box. They put down a thin layer of foam on each side and then cut up the foam separators from a box of Rembrandts to use dividers. Since the dividers didn't take up a complete side, another set of foam - thicker and the depth of the box was added.

To keep the lids on - they use velcro.

A similiar box is on the back cover of the Dakota Art supply catalog for 2003. It's called Dakota Universal Travel Boxes. It's slightly different but not by much.

If you need a closer photo - let me know.

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