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Old 06-28-2001, 06:55 PM
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Use to denote nudity/mature subject matter First Figure & First Experiment W/Pastel

Okay, my hands are a little shakey. This is my first attempt at pastels and a figure drawing. So, I think I have a descent start can someone give me some critiques? I really should relax this did start as an experiment... I had to scan this in pieces. Sorry guys. There is more space at the top & sides of the paper but the scanner just won't show it. I really want honest criticism, so let 'er rip!

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this is something I'm working on too, not an expert, just working on it so here's what I see but I could be off;
I like the waist, hips and buns, really nice. Feels like the breast could be too big or maybe just a little more of that chest/boney area is needed at the transition of the neck. I think the head might be a bit small but then it's not done.
I like your handling of light and shadow, warm colors.
What reference are you working from?
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Thank you Zotma!!! I was thinking her breast might be too big too. Was hard to focus at work but I just HAD to mess with it. Should have left it alone but.. I suspect your right about the head, shouldn't be too hard to fix.

No reference. Just was practicing trying to make figures. I've been doodling them forever. Got brave last night and thought it would be nice to try and make a finished piece instead of all those doodles!
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Great first attempt.... I like the colour combination.

I agree the breast is too big... also it sits a bit high on the chest and wraps around the torso a bit too much...Also.. the neck is a bit thick.. most women have slender necks.. Its one of the things we guys love

The lower half of the body is great... well done

If this is from the mind (no reference model) then you have done great work for a first attempt... I think the body is the most difficult to master (maybe horses too )> It took me ages to get anywhere near to where I was satisfied, and I have a long, long way to go.

I would recommend a great book published by barnes and noble (ISBN 1-56619-787-2) titled "Anatomy and Drawing" by Victor Perard. It was a great help to me

keep on keeping on......

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Thanks Pete! Your feedback is very insightful and encouraging . I am definetly going to look for the book you suggested. The human form is so beautiful, I really want to master this.
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Great first try WOW The colours are yummy.
I find that the head thingy is a bit off putting though
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TeAnne: Yeah, the head and neck thing. Not to mention that big football sitting there pretending to be a boob! I haven't really started on the head but after the critiques I plan to enlargen it and scale the neck down. The only part I still feel uncertain about is the armpit. I plan to go to the library. Maybe I'll find something there.
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I love the colours, and the big boobie and bum make me smile.

I think the 'ball' of the shoulder needs to be elongated, and shaped more like an upside-down tear drop. And the dark upside down triangle that is the armpit needs to go slightly more towards her back?

But I love it, anyway!

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Hi Redshoes, Whatever you are sketching the image from is not helping at all. Is it a photo, another drawing or what? The skin is a generic skin color not at all what skin looks like..the same with the "breast" which takes up that whole upper half of the torso...the comment that you are certain that you got it right probably indicates that you got your mental image right....you need to do more observing and see what the figure and it's colors really do look like...I am now taking classes in this area and advise you to do the same..you will be suprised at what is revealed to you thru good instruction or even just having to confront a live model...the head should not be left for last, better do the head first if at all, but the very best is to do the entire figure head and all at the same time..then it has a better chance of looking like the different parts belong together...the idea is not photo realism you know...but something that shows a sensitive view of the object and a human interpretation of it.
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ArtyHelen: Thank you! and thanks for the tip about the shoulder, I understand exactly what you mean by tear drop. I will work on that.

Mario: Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this piece so let me respon....

"Whatever you are sketching the image from is not helping at all. Is it a photo, another drawing or what? "

I'm not sketching from anything. I had something I doodled and thought it would be neat to try and make something of it, this is my first attempt at. Actually my very first intention was to draw a woman taking a shower but as usual it never ends up quite like I planned!

"The skin is a generic skin color not at all what skin looks like..the same with the "breast" which takes up that whole upper half of the torso"....

My intention for the skin color was actually to not make real looking skin but something more vibrant. My intention was too use blues and yellows, oranges and pinks. This is my first time with pastel and I just started picking up the colors I liked. For some reason I started to gravitate towards the yellows, oranges and reds. I'm still not finished so let me know what you think...

"you need to do more observing and see what the figure and it's colors really do look like...I am now taking classes in this area and advise you to do the same..you will be suprised at what is revealed to you thru good instruction or even just having to confront a live model...the head should not be left for last, better do the head first if at all, but the very best is to do the entire figure head and all at the same time..then it has a better chance of looking like the different parts belong together...the idea is not photo realism you know...but something that shows a sensitive view of the object and a human interpretation of it."

On doing the head first. I think I was starting to get stumped with what colors to transition to. I still am not quite certain what color to make the head so I started on the rest thinking I'd figure something out. Right now I'm thinking of picking up more of the blue that you find on her back. You've made a lot of good points and it's going to take time for me to digest this. On the comment about photo realism, if I'm understanding you correctly, then I absolutely agree. This was part of my intention. Sometimes I get so uptight, I wanted to try to do something that was loose and to try to just have fun. I tend to get impatient with planning so I thought this would be a fun break. I would love to take a class like yours! Up until now I have been just trying to read and observe.

Thanks to everyone for your comments and more than that for your honesty. It is truly the only way to learn. Hopefully tonight or tomorrow I'll have an update to post.
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