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Old 09-01-2003, 11:25 AM
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negative painting _ how?

Would someone explain what negative painting is? I have a vague idea but would like a proper explanation. A WIP would really help too. I looked through the stickies but couldn't find one.
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Old 09-01-2003, 11:28 AM
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I would like to know this also! I think I know...but not sure. I have had it referred to in some of my paintings. I just nodded my head like I knew what they were talking about. *blush-grin-blush**
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Old 09-01-2003, 11:38 AM
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OK I'll have a stab!

Negative painting is when you create the shape of something by painting what is AROUND it, for example the white lilies I painted. The first stage was to paint the background, leaving the lily shapes white mostly.



Or you can lay a motherwash and then paint around, leaving the colours of the motherwash as they are.

Did that help???

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Old 09-01-2003, 11:42 AM
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Ruth has it. I find it very difficult especially when doing backgrounds and trying to paint the dark leaving the the leaf and stem shapes.

Its very tempting to resort to masking fluid in these circumstances.

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Old 09-01-2003, 11:44 AM
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Yes, Maddie, good explanation

Perhaps a further explanation. Think of a photograph: there is a positive [the picture]; and, a negative [the...err..negative].
On the 'positive' you see the foreward stuff.
On the 'negative' you see the background stuff. Negative painting would outline the positive, just as Maddie said.

Now, even further: this can also be referred to as painting 'off-register'.
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Old 09-01-2003, 11:47 AM
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Ruths is a very good example..........

negative drawing is a useful skill too............ you draw the shapes around an object rather than the object itself............ then youre less likely to make it look like what you think it OUGHT to look like and more like what it actually DOES look like
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Old 09-01-2003, 11:52 AM
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Heres another example from one of my Challenge 2 WIPS......... you can see the did version of Als daidies in my signature line below

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Negative Painting is a really effective tool....


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Pam, thanks for the link!
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Just been lookimg at Pampes listed examples..........

would you then say that what I was doing was NOT negative painting as I put the yellows on the flowers AFTER creating their shapes rather than before as an underwash ?

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Thanks guys! ( Bev - I'm just thicker skined is all!)

Ruth - got me thinking, thanks

Yorky - yes white out is VERY tempting - I'm going to try to avoid it

Fookie - thanks, I understand the concept when drawing but was having troubles seeing it with paint

Jaytee - I think its still negative painting even if you paint the positives later - fookie-lyn describes it that way

Pampe - super links - I am going to bookmark all three and try them later. Thank you very much!
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As much trouble as I have with negative painting, this is one that was fairly successful with the leaves at the bottom: (and there are a lot of 'positive' leaves as well in the painting)



it gets confusing to me, but if you can 'see' the shapes between the leaves, and paint those, then it gets a little 'easier'.... this coming from someone who is taking an all-day workshop on negative painting next month...

ps - this was also a lesson to me on how I 'file' my photos - gheesh, I had steps of this painting in 4 different files ! gotta do some cleanin' up !
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WOW - a fabulous example, thanks faafil - are you going to keep us posted on the results of your workshop? Also, do you mind if I print these examples out?

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So many good examples ......... negative painting is very useful.
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