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Old 09-01-2003, 09:35 AM
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A new project has been announced in the WetCanvas! project system!

Title: Painting Clouds in Pastel
Project Leader: Craig Houghton
Relative Difficulty: Irrelevant
Type Restrictions: Painting
Medium: Pastels
Subject: Landscape
Days open for signups: Always
Maximum participants allowed: Unlimited

Description:

The goal of this project is to learn a bit (more) about clouds while sharing tips on how to paint them in pastel.

I’m inviting (challenging) everyone who works in pastels (soft, oil, hard, water soluble, whatever) to learn the basic cloud types (there’s really only three) and how to paint them in pastel. Here are the guidelines:

1. Take a look at the info below and the links. Learn the basic types. One can certainly just paint them as they are seen, but since most of us have often used, and will continue to include, clouds in our works, a few moments time spent learning a bit about them will be well spent – it helps to understand the types from memory since skies shift so rapidly when painting from life, there’s specific tricks and approaches for certain cloud families, to know a variety of clouds really helps you select the perfect clouds for your piece, and in general, accurate portrayal of the cloud types lends believability to a work.

2. In the description of your gallery post, along with the usual title/medium/support info, tell us what basic (or more specific) types of clouds are present in the work. This can be tough, but the challenge here is to learn something new and help others pick it up as well.

2. The links and reference images are there if you need them, but you’re not limited to them in any way. Feel free to use existing works or (much better) go out, paint the sky, and identify what you saw for the rest of us.

3. As you post your gallery images, visit the project thread and consider posting WIP-style images or close-ups to help show everyone how you managed to capture those clouds. The focus should be not only on a better understanding of what goes on overhead, but how exactly to capture that in pastel.

4. Have fun, take risks, and tell everyone what you are doing and how you’re managing it. Enjoy everyone!

And, what’s the best way to translate that stunning (admission free) three dimensional drama that plays out in the skyscape above onto pastel paper? It depends on the clouds.

There are three basic cloud types: cumulus, stratus, and cirrus. Prefixes like cirro (way up) and alto (mid to high) help us place the clouds in the sky. There appears to be no special term for low clouds. The prefix or suffix nimbo is used to indicate that precipitation is falling from the clouds. When you look at listings of various cloud-types in the links, it seems like there's an endless supply of types, but that's only because you can mix cloud types and add prefixes and otherwise end up with things that sound like altocumulus and cirrostratus (those are examples of clouds with two shapes together, and so the names are conjoined). However, if you know the three basic types and understand the alto/cirro/nimbo stuff, you'll be fine.

When looking at the links, here's a good way to conceptualize the families:

Cumulus: puffy clouds (like pillows)

Stratus: layered clouds (like sheets and blankets)

Cirrus: wispy clouds (like feathery sweeps of cloud painted upon the ceiling.)

So, stratus sheets, cumulus pillows, and cirrus ceiling patterns (sounds like nap time really.)

You can mix puffy bits with a blanket and end up with something like stratocumulus. Cumulonimbus means rainy puffy clouds (*cough* thunderhead). Cirrostratus, indicates a high-altitude blanket (btw, remember that cirro and cirrus are different terms even though they look similar). You can mix and match types and differentia to end up with a whole glossary of terms.

This link provides some really meaty cloud info: http://vortex.plymouth.edu/clouds.html

This site has incredible cloud pics and lots of weighty background if you look around: http://www.cloudman.com/gallery1/gallery1_1.html

Have fun, learn a bit, and check out the project discussion.


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For more information on the project: Click here!

Remember, in order to help keep the discussions on projects organized, you should post your questions, suggestions, and comments on submitted work here in this thread. By doing this, we allow other non-project efforts to not get "pushed down" by a swarm of project-related threads.
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Old 09-01-2003, 09:41 AM
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Well done Craig, this project looks very interesting and educational too, will get it turned into a sticky ASAP...Clouds are fascinating to paint and most of us struggle with them.... so come on folks sign up for Craig's project and have fun whilst learning.

Craig count me in on this one.

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Old 09-01-2003, 10:26 AM
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Hi Craig: I am in on this one too, although will probably be joining in later on after vacation. I hope lots of people join in on this one - it should be a good one!!
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Old 09-01-2003, 06:17 PM
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Kewl! as my grandkids say! I'm in on this one too. We have been having some awesome skies lately. Down in the Sacramento Valley the temps are hitting triple digits which causes thunder boomers in the mountains. Really awesome sky effects!
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Old 09-02-2003, 06:57 AM
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Welcome everyone!

I can't wait to see what comes of this. It's very exciting. I'm glad to see everyone signing up -- looking forward to your entries Mikki, Kat, Mo, and everyone else.

Mo, thank you for making this a sticky!

To start things off, I posted some past works. You'll notice that I've identified the cloud types in the description fields. Feel free to be more specific with the types, or to simply identify the family, but I wanted to post these as examples of identification. I'll follow with some new cloud studies specifically made for this project.

Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/...entry_id=26080



Since this is my largest cloud piece and since there's a very simple cloud structure, here's a closer look. I hope everyone has a chance to show some detail pics of their clouds as well.



Here, I used a photo-editing tool to increase the contrast to make the blockiness more visible. They're just like dark-bottomed boxes.



And, here in this WIP photo, you can see how I first established the cumulus forms by putting in the dark bottoms. I attempted to pay attention to how the undersides of these forms stretches off away from the viewer toward the horizon. I later just stacked the puffy parts on (nothing like schmincke lights for buttery fluff), placed some darker spots here and there where the light would be obscured, and worked some sky colors on top in order to add some complexity and open the masses up a bit where the wind blew about the cumulus stacks.



Also, I suppose I should mention that I went with some less than photo-realistic color choices in the cloud-darks -- it seems to me that clouds 'read' quite easily and there's extra opportunity to increase drama without losing sight of the recognizeable subject -- if the shapes are there and things are consistent they still look like clouds

I'm really looking forward to seeing everyone's entries, and I hope some of you have a chance to post details (although that's very optional! )

-Craig

here's one more



also, here's some more cloud links to try (although I find the two posted in the project details to be best)

http://www.joannegoodwin.com/technol...oud_types.html

http://asd-www.larc.nasa.gov/SCOOL/cldchart.html

and, in case anyone has missed this WC article on clouds, it can be of great help, especially with cumulus stacks.

http://www.wetcanvas.com/ArtSchool/H...rialpersp4.htm

Have fun everyone!
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This looks like a very neat, worthwhile project! Thanks for setting it up, Craig.
I hope I will have time to do this. In fact when we were out on the water yesterday I was taking some photos of mostly clouds. Propitious!
Not oging to sign up yet but I am going to try to do this one. I look forward to seeing the entries!

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Old 09-02-2003, 06:50 PM
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Comment on final entry by: Craig Houghton

Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/...entry_id=26074



Gosh Craig.... you have been busy... those paintings are awesome... this particular one is absolutely stunning.... off to check the others now.

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Old 09-02-2003, 07:14 PM
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Comment on final entry by: Craig Houghton

Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com//Community/...entry_id=26076



Craig all your paintings are so wonderful, I've commented on this one and the one above as I haven't seen either of them before, both are awesome... This particular one is very atmsopheric, I love it.!!

It's a treat to see clouds painted as clouds should be..... and I admire how you have studied your subject.. skies and clouds are forever changing in atmsophere , so many people seem to overlook the importance of painting them right, can make or break a good landscape/seascape painting... thankyou Craig for this thoroughly imformative project, I can see I'm going to learn a lot..... btw...one of your pics is showing as a red x, you may wish to check this out... it's titled 'cloud no.1'...I think.

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Cloud Project

Craig.....
New here and very amateurish.............count me in.
Hope I can figure on how to send in my pics in progress?

Thanks again

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Old 09-02-2003, 07:33 PM
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Hi Claude... welcome to you and good for you joining in this project, most newbies lurk for a few months... jump right in my friend that's the best way... I've just sent you a Pm to explain how to go about things, hope it helps, pm me back if you need more help okay?

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Hey Craig,

What a super idea, clouds, they come in all sorts of shapes and colours, i like what i have seen in the thread and i think its such a good idea to work on this subject, it makes or breaks a landscape and i think its a good way to get back into the swing of things................i´m looking forward to taking part, and using my memory from the past few months spending so much time outside and seeing the various and most beautiful skies daily.....................well done for a really good project
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I really like clouds so this project sounds like one I will enjoy. I'm just a little confused about "signing up" how and why are we signing up? I've never participated in a project before.
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Old 09-03-2003, 10:56 AM
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I really like clouds so this project sounds like one I will enjoy. I'm just a little confused about "signing up" how and why are we signing up? I've never participated in a project before.
Val

Welcome aboard! To sign up first go to the project detail page. You can use the link at the beginning of this thread, or click here: Project Details Once there, click the "Sign up for this project!" link towards the bottom. This means that you are added to the list of project participants. Then you'll notice that you can upload images and such to the project. You can also read more about the project there, see reference images which you can use if you like (or not), and take a look at the submissions made by the other participants. There's no limitations or drawbacks to signing up, and I'd love for you to participate.

ctmobitz - I'm sure Mo's pm will take care of everything, but if you need anything else just ask away. Glad to have you.

And, everyone else, many thanks for the praise! Also, I'll check on that red x. I'm thrilled to see so everyone I know, and excited about all the new faces.

-Craig
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Great project Craig.
I'll sign up and try to get out of this non-doing frame of mind I've been in for some months.
Clouds eh - make a change for me to paint them, rather than forecast the damn things. LOL.
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Regarding this entry --> http://www.wetcanvas.com/Community/P...entry_id=26278



"Cotton Cloud"
Soft pastels on Canson Mi-Teintes, 12 x 16, grey tinted paper, smooth side. In this initial sketch I started with charcoal thin stick drawing. Trying to include Cumulus, Stratus and Cirrus clouds from my reference photo. After charcoal sketch I switched over to my Nupastels to lay down local color and leaving some grey tint from the paper showing. Did find that it had a nice effect to the colors. To my advantage......"pleasant happenings"!
All C & C would be very much appreciated on this initial sketch.

Had to post this message this way as I had problems when I tried downloading pic and writing message at same time......still working on the finer details of the computer world... LOL

Thanks
Happy pasteling
Claude

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