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Old 05-23-2012, 02:23 AM
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Question Pastel board

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I've been using Acid Free Cartridge paper which is available at a very cheap price in market..Now am thinking to do a painting on pastel board. Is there any specific way how to start with it or can I just lay my colors as I lay on paper.. Also can I blend my colors using paper stump on the board..

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Old 05-23-2012, 03:34 AM
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Re: Pastel board

I think I should have posted this in OP Tools and Materials, so I reposted there...Sorry
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:22 AM
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Re: Pastel board

Barbie, posting general questions here is just fine. It will be responded to sooner in the talk thread than anywhere else.

Pastel board should not require any additional preparation before the application of oil pastels.

Paper stumps can be used for blending on any surface.

I usually use a surface, masonite primarily, gessoed with clear gesso or Derivian Matisse ground colors which all create a toothy surface which works well with oil pastels. These surfaces would be tough a bit rough for finger blending and the paper stumps work great on them.
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:31 AM
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Re: Pastel board

Thanks Hal, here in market we get canvas board which says-'acrylic priming and acid free'..What will be fine among both boards

I've never used any paper which is real toothy,and am afraid to buy 1/2kg of gesso (dat's the least quantity of gesso available here).
I feel paintings made on cartridge paper though look really beautiful but want to try boards since everyone write so good about them and the texture they provide.
Am an amateur artist ,and want to try on selling them of. Will it be professional if I sell OP paintings on cartridge paper..
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Re: Pastel board

As Hal has said you shouldn't have to do anything to pastel board. Several of my students use it and they love it. I find it a little too toothy for me.
I would think that cartridge paper wouldn't be acid free. Is it?

This is the place to post questions.

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Old 05-24-2012, 12:56 PM
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Thanks Hal, here in market we get canvas board which says-'acrylic priming and acid free'..What will be fine among both boards

Am an amateur artist ,and want to try on selling them of. Will it be professional if I sell OP paintings on cartridge paper..

If you're going to sell your work, you owe it to your customers (patrons) to give them as good and durable product as you can. I don't think cartridge paper qualifies. I also use 140# watercolor paper on which I layer a coat of gesso for protection and I'll add a top layer of gesso with marble dust mixed in for added tooth. As I previously mentioned, the Matisse background paints are actually colored gesso with some tooth added to it already. I often like to paint on a toned surface and the background colors work great as does the masonite that has been gessoed with clear gesso.

Canvas board (which I also use) doesn't require any extra gesso but if you don't like the canvas texture to show through the final work, some extra thick gesso smoothed across the canvas surface with a credit card can remove that texture. If I did the extra smoothing, I would want marble dust in the final layer.

Warning: Clear gessoed masonite, and canvas panels really eat up the oil pastel sticks. These surfaces really encourage heavy, thick application of oil pastel. But this is the way I paint.

When I was a soft pastellist, I was a grinder and applied my pastels with a firm twist grinding the pastels into the paper. I learned from Herman Margulies who often broke his pastels as he was grinding them into the surface. That's the way I learned and I tend to do the same with my oil pastels.
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Re: Pastel board

Matisse background paints? I never heard of them but I might be interested in them.

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Old 05-25-2012, 02:11 AM
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Re: Pastel board

Thanks Hal and Pat, I found online Camel Aquarelle Watercolor Paper sheets available in 180gsm & 270gsm rough and smooth.. I found them to be very cheap comparing to other brands..Which one is better for OPs -smooth or rough?


Here is a link- http://www.himalayafineart.com/Product.aspx?prodid=1062&itemname=Camel%20Aquarell e%20Watercolor%20Paper
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Sounds good. Smooth or rough depends on your preference. I prefer smoother surfaces, but many like the rough.

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Re: Pastel board

Pat, do you directly apply OPs over it or apply gesso coat and then colors?
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Re: Pastel board

If it is paper, it is always a good idea to put a coat of gesso on it. When I use watercolor paper I apply a coat of gesso.

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Old 05-25-2012, 01:48 PM
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What sort of gesso you generally use-transparent or you add marble dust.
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Re: Pastel board

Depends. If I have a pencil drawing on it I use clear gesso so I can still see the drawing and not have the OP blend with the graphite. Otherwise, I just us plain gesso.

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Old 05-26-2012, 01:00 AM
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Hmm..I read about applying gesso on wc paper ,they have asked to put gesso on both sides to prevent warping...should it be applied after all the coatings on one side dry and then it should be applied the other side..Sorry am filled with so many questions..
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Re: Pastel board

I usually only put one layer on one side, but my paper is very thick, 300 lb.
You could do that. It certainly wouldn't hurt it.

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