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Re: The Oily Rag....................Come and Chat, May 2012
Becc, it is essentially the same palette.
serrano's plein air palette and sid's cheaper, no cad substitutes:
yellow ochre- yellow ochre
cad yell lt- winsor yellow
cad orange- remb vermilion
aliz crim- aliz crim
ultra blue- ultra blue
pthalo green- phthalo blue
burnt sienna- burnt sienna
I don't like phthalo green as much as I do blue, like I said earlier, I can mix any freakin color I ever want except a bright phthalo green which I would never want anyway.
If you like cads and have no issues with using it then I would just use them, no problem at all. But when someone asks if it is absolutely essential and required to use them I answer no, it is not essential.
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05-11-2012, 08:45 AM
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Re: The Oily Rag....................Come and Chat, May 2012
Thanks, Sid,  will see how it goes...  now I only need time to paint....and to buy a few new tubes too.
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you can mix any freakin color I ever want except a bright phthalo green which I would never want anyway.
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poor phthalo green.
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If you like cads and have no issues with using it then as I repeatedly said, I would just use them, no problem at all. But when someone asks if it is absolutely essential and required to use them I answer no, it is not essential.
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Yes, I get that....just interested in seeing the comparison....
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Re: The Oily Rag....................Come and Chat, May 2012
phthalo green just ain't natch'rel to me, it is so off the hook. Better when toned down like in permanent greens. If I use a green I guess viridian is my first choice.
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Re: The Oily Rag....................Come and Chat, May 2012
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phthalo green just ain't natch'rel to me, it is so off the hook. Better when toned down like in permanent greens. If I use a green I guess viridian is my first choice.
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I never liked tube green til I tried viridian...Schmid recommended it.  He pointed out it could be easily warmed or cooled..
And, now you are endorsing it too..couldn't be better.
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Re: The Oily Rag....................Come and Chat, May 2012
Hi Peter, yes, we have all been missing Sandra. 
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If you like cads and have no issues with using it then I would just use them, no problem at all. But when someone asks if it is absolutely essential and required to use them I answer no, it is not essential.
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the way I see it, for myself at least, there is so much pollution going into our local environment from ag and other industries, my cads are truly a drop in the bucket..or any of my other chems as well...I am still responsible in my handling of them...just see a much bigger picture.
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Re: The Oily Rag....................Come and Chat, May 2012
M. Harding Permanent Sap Green is great. I don't use it as much as I'd like though. I might find a way to shoehorn it in to the painting I'm working on at the moment, maybe as the background.
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Re: The Oily Rag....................Come and Chat, May 2012
Hi Car,..I have sap green and perm green but no M Harding paint at all...if you work it into your painting be sure and show us. 
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Re: The Oily Rag....................Come and Chat, May 2012
I shouldn't say i never want it, there is a very light tint of phthalo green that is fresh, clean, bright, and very minty looking that no other color can get, I have a lifetime supply if I ever need it. Sap green seems to come in real handy for landscapes but I know some even use it for portraits. I have them all except cadmium and cobalt green but I will get them too sometime.
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now you are endorsing it too..couldn't be better.
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I shouldn't say i never want it, there is a very light tint of phthalo green that is fresh, clean, bright, and very minty looking that no other color can get, I have a lifetime supply if I ever need it. Sap green seems to come in real handy for landscapes but I know some even use it for portraits. I have them all.
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I'm going to have a look at it. Think I have blue...nice to know it has a place on your palette afterall...
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Re: The Oily Rag....................Come and Chat, May 2012
Gotta run!
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Re: The Oily Rag....................Come and Chat, May 2012
OK, i am a big fat liar because i just remembered using phthalo green and white to get exactly that fresh minty green color in this painting, it is mainly in the light greens in the background and i really did love the color I got with it, so forget everything i ever said about colors
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OK, i am a big fat liar because i just remembered using phthalo green and white to get exactly that fresh minty green color in this painting, it is mainly in the light greens in the background and i really did love the color I got with it, so forget everything i ever said about colors
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Sid, this painting is a beauty!!  I will not forget what you said about color...you are a vault of info when it comes to color. 
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Re: The Oily Rag....................Come and Chat, May 2012
no it's not, and no i'm not, hey you live near keith in corny old kansas!
i will leave soon so bye for now.
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