Women and Wines

[MarcioFilho]

Hello all,

for those who don't remember me, I'm the one making abstract wine paintings.

All my paintings were made using wine related materials such as corks, wine glasses, wine bottles and bottle openers to actually spread the paint into the canvas or give their shape on details. Only one brush is used and some spray paint helps adding a graffiti touch.
The technique consists in applying the paint into the objects and use them to launch colour into the canvas.

The frames I make out of old wood wine pallets.


This is my latest creation and I call Women and Wines.


Tell me what you think.

Thanks!

[Sean T.]

Hmm...not much to go on in this photo. I can't really see anything good enough to comment.

[PushingPixels]

The image itself is extremely minimaist but intriguing to me. The one thing that detracts from it (to me) is the framing technigue. The frame seems to overpower this work.
I can imagine in my minds eye this work with a very thin black frame being much more effective.

In my estimation one type frame does not fit all work.

[PushingPixels]

Did a quick little sample for ya...

[Katie Black]

Sorry but I agree with Sean..it needs more work

[MarcioFilho]

Thank you so much... the frame is overpowering.
It needs something different.
I cannot thank you enough!!!!

[MarcioFilho]

A women's eye is what I needed!

THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[MarcioFilho]

Hello again. I couldn't make it much more delicate. Is just not me.
But I've changed the mounting, changed the wood and gave it a black coat.

What do you think?

[truarts]

I like this mounting much better. It provides a much needed contrast. A thought.......maybe the mounting/frame work could become the work. Im much more interested in the frame and background panel than the paint used on the panel.

[Katie Black]

Hi, Yes I think this works so much better!

[AlexB]

What I'm wondering initially is why are you adding spray paint and going for a graffiti kind of touch to your pieces? Reading your initial post that seemed to come out of left field in how you make your works. It seems to clash with idea of wine and having delicacy in the painting that you mentioned later on.

I think you may want to consider doing something to make the painting more obvious that it's been painted using parts from a wine bottle or add more to it or something. It just feels kind of incomplete and too minimalist to me. If you make it more evident that it's been painted using alternate materials/processes it will help make up for the extremely minimalist composition a bit more. Maybe you could use a part of the wine box that has a label on it or add the label off of a wine bottle to it the frame or something to visually explain that idea a bit more.

I think it's also important to keep in mind that although you're using an alternative process that's not a reason alone to keep things so bare, it does make the steps taken to create it more interesting but it ultimately (to me at least) doesn't make the actual paint on the canvas much more important. When people look at the canvas they're still ultimately only seeing the end product, the process can be very interesting but is only worth so much because you can't actually see it. To make the process make up for the lack of final visual composition you should consider thinking of a way to represent the process that is visible in the final composition so people can have a better appreciation for it.

I would also be careful with how you do the framing. When I first started framing I had a problem with framing things way too heavy myself. When you have a super thick intricate frame like that you're making people look at the frame and not the painting because the highest contrast is between the edge of the painting and the frame. The frame itself is also more intricate than the painting so it kind of distracts you from that as well. With this it's acceptable to have the frame be a bit bolder because it's part of the artwork but it still needs to be a bit more even to help the whole piece flow a bit better I think.

Constructive criticism aside, I think you've got a great idea to start with. After some developing and experimenting you could do some very interesting work. It is a cool concept to create the frame and lay the paint on using a closely tied theme of objects. You could even start finding a way to mix the materials with your paint which could garner some interesting results. This could also be applied to other materials as well, using related objects to create the frame, apply the paint, and used to mix into the paint.

I hope this didn't come off as too harsh, I think you could be onto a good idea but it needs some more refinement/experimentation. I also hope this raised a few good questions for you to think about and spur some ideas on where to take this next.

[MarcioFilho]

Hello all and thank you for your comments.
They are all very encouraging.

AlexB, I would like to thank you in special. Your insight is very clever.
I am a artist by accident and I started my work less than one year ago. Everything is a big learning process for myself and I took all your comments in the best way possible. Thanks again.

Regarding the "graffiti touch", yes, I think it is a little left wing. I did not do it, however, thinking on this. When I started painting I just gathered a bunch of things that I liked, a bunch of things that are an expression of my passions and personality and influences (like music, and places that I've been, etc) and put it down in the canvas. The end result is a bit messy and I think that's the way it should be. Having said that, I am a walking metamorphose. I am always changing the way I think and I wouldn't be surprise if my paintings suddenly change as well.

The frames are a work in progress. If you go to my webpage: http://www.appellationartcontrolee.com you will see some very good results where the frames complete the canvas in a great way (in my opinion).
This particular paint was a tricky one. Exactly because is a feminine work, very delicate and very minimalist I found difficult to print my rustic, ruff personality without overpowering it. I did the frame twice and now I think I am satisfied with the end result.

You touched as well in a very interesting point. About making the work more "obvious" so everyone can grasp the technique used. It is not the first time I heard that and I am considering some radical changes to make this happen.
I'm considering for example to stick several wine labels into the wood before I cut it, so the frames would be a big mosaic of fine wine labels (God help me not becoming an alcoholic after this!).
Also, I am working at the moment on a different technique where some bottle openers and corks are printed onto the canvas... is a crazy thing that I am experimenting but I think it will work.
Also, I am considering the possibility to use grated corks either in the frames or in the canvas itself.

Well, I hope I haven't spoken too much!
Thanks very much and speak soon!!!

[~JON]

Yes, the latest version is better.
The wine label idea sounds worth exploring.