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Old 02-16-2012, 01:42 PM
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how do you kindly tell a person you don't like someone's work? either in a class situation (you're teaching) or in a gallery where there is a body of work that just makes you cringe? not work that simply isnt' your style but I mean really BAD art.
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Old 02-16-2012, 02:22 PM
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Re: bad art

Two words come to mind; nice and/or interesting...
To be honest you are probably better off just telling them you think it's poor work. It will be better in the long run.
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Did they ask for your opinion?
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I am with Robin, did they ask for your opinion? Why do you need to share that opinion? or are you hoping that by sharing why the art is bad to you it will provide some value to the person hearing it?
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Re: bad art

If they ask your opinion try to offer constructive criticism. Find something to help them improve their work.

Failing that, if you want to be polite or nice to them just say that it is not your cup of tea.

"I don't like it." is easier to hear than "Your work is bad art."
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After reading about art for a while, I've realized that a lot of so called advances in art were caused by artists who were considered "very bad" artists, and work that was considered "not artistic" or "really bad." I tend to stick with cowardly cliches myself, that are technically well done but yet have no soul. Nice art that is "pretty" but means nothing, and so on. Recognizing my own cowardly, trite ways, I would like to move on to more deforming, gouging out eyeballs, using cryptic methods, and junky technique to get off the "pretty" and "nice" bus.

You just get yelled at if you tell anyone anything they don't want to hear. I have tried to be honest in the past, but my honesty has never made me many friends. People want "yes men," not honest people.

In a gallery or learning situation I think it is better to not give any "Judgement" and say, "your work has a lot of Van Gough's color choices," or "Pollock's energy" or, "reminds me of a Paul Klee." Or you could tell them it reminds you of something. Always make a criticism in a way that refers to another artist. You may hate the picture but say "I like the muted tone, it reminds me of a Wyeth," or "The composition reminds me of a Kandinsky." This means absolutely nothing, and is pandering and pawing as far as I see, but if it is between that and saying someone is a horrible artist, then chose the "comparative" approach. It will earn you less death threats and nasty stares.

Do you always need to tell the truth, or tell every one everything that is on your mind? Goodness no!
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Do you always need to tell the truth, or tell every one everything that is on your mind? Goodness no!


In a class situation I'd say yes. That is what they are paying you for, your opinion as the teacher.
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Scary to think an art teacher doesn't have any idea how to crit.
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Re: bad art

The word we used when I took an art class in high school was "expressive". As in "that is a very expressive piece". What exactly it was expressive of was always left unspecified.

In a class situation I would expect more honesty about quality. If the work is hung in a gallery I really would just expect some polite social noises, but no really serious critique.

Even in a gallery though, if I really don't like something I will probably say so.
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eek, I agree.
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Re: bad art

I have an easier time when teaching, mainly due to the kindness of those who've taught me. and at that time, I am trying to help them, and ask them what they think, what about it makes them happy about their work and then try to give advice on how to improve on what they want to improve on.

this situation is an artist who is in charge of hanging works and aquiring works for a gallery. she is in love with work that i see as very poorly done...the drawing is horrible, the colors are muddy and the materials cheap. I am not saying the only good art is total realism, in fact, I jsut bought a painting that is somewhat abstact. love it! but its very well done, not sloppy. (not to be confused with being overly tight! nope, its loose as could be!)

I am happy the person doing it enjoys it, but I would place a big bet that it will never sell in the gallery. and I do not wish to offend anyone, for any art they like!! its not my job, but I just know this person is going to ask me about this other's work, and eek, I dread it. I like the 'expressive' term, as this IS true, it is that.

this is a thread that would've been better off in person, as I certainly mean no harm to anyone at all, nor am I implying all I like is the only thing 'good'. I don't have to like a certain piece to at least be able to enjoy that its GOOD art. I just have a feeling this is coming out all wrong sounding, here in type. sorry.
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Ask her what she likes about it. Maybe there's something there you are missing? All you have to say is "it's not to MY taste".
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Re: bad art

My work hangs in a gallery where there are a couple of artists who have work I don't like. However they are very good. I don't like their subject matter, style, colour choice etc., but they are very good.
There are also a couple of people represented who's work I don't like and I feel it's just awful.The compositions aren't good, poor use of materials and application of such, cheaply framed,etc.
The owner and I frequently talk about the work hanging in the gallery. Usually the work that I consider "bad" is work she has hung because she has been badgered into it. It's a small town and it's her business.
I always give someone honest feedback when they ask for it. Determining if that is what they are really asking for can be tricky.
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Re: bad art

I try to keep my opinion about the quality of artwork to myself unless someone asks.

If someone asks, than it depends on the situation and how strong my opinion is.

If I have a definite negative opinion about a certain aspect of the art, I'll say so. If I'm talking to someone else who isn't emotionally invested in the artwork, then I'll speak freely, but I still try to be diplomatic. If it's the artist I'm talking to, then I speak much more carefully. I would much rather have someone else be honest but diplomatic with me in their opinions of my work -- or anything else important in life -- than to spout white lies.
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Re: bad art

Just ask the person if they are open for some suggestions. Either that person will be receptive to the idea or they won't. It's that plain and simple.
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